No Drug Tests For Food Stamp Recipients, Feds Tell Georgia

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  1. dixon76710

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    Government doesn't create jobs and usually only hinders their creation.
     
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    Accepting food stamps is a voluntary action.

    There is no "right" to welfare. Try reading the Constitution some day.

    If someone wants to get welfare money, which is offered unconstitutionally, there's no problem with them filling out a stack of forms. So there's equally no problem with filling out the Consent to be Tested form, too.

    If they don't want to be tested, they don't have to have the money.

    It's not complicated.

    And search warrants aren't required for voluntary submissions.

    And hey, if they're not doing drugs, there's nothing to hide anyway, right? Only the guilty hide their college transcripts and birth certificates, right? And only the guilty stealing money from the taxpayer would refuse a little pee-in-the-cup test,. right?
     
  3. RichT2705

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    No on both thank you. If earning my keep means I have to submit...so should the bums who collect freebies. They deserve no more Liberty than I.
     
  4. danielpalos

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    yeah, right; like even the right is That into commodity forms of money.

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    You can always quit if it is too much of a (tax) burden.
     
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    Food stamps come on a card and you can't just take 20 dollars out. Food stamps also require that items be scanned out of inventory so unless the store keeper is scanning food out and handing over a Vodka bottle instead thats not happening. And the government is very watchful for this kind of fraud. People who do this don't do it for very long.
     
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    It is why we merely need to correct for the phenomena known as a natural rate of unemployment as a Standard.

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    There is as much right to welfare as there is for the common defense since both are Socialized and not Capitalized with the (other) Peoples' tax monies.
     
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    General welfare applies to everyone.

    Giving money to individual obama voters by name is the specific welfare of one person and therefore unconstitutional.
     
  8. Professor Peabody

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    So a background check to buy a gun is a "unwarranted government search" too?
     
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    The Mayor's heard that Queen Moochy has this WONDERFUL healthy balanced diet and she needs volunteers to try it out.

    Why not let those welfare parasites do something useful in their life for a change?
     
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    Why does the right prefer to "play the victim" regarding paying taxes?
     
  11. RichT2705

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    Nah, I'm not a bum who expects others to feed my family and pay for my cable TV if I'm able bodied enough to provide it for them. That your choice of argument is to suggest that route, says volumes about your personal responsibility.
     
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    Absolutely. As well as an unconstitutional infringement of the Second Amendment.

    Something about the right of gun ownership existing, but the Right to Welfare being some socialist mushroom-induced psychosis.
     
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    The choice of accepting food stamps or starving is not a choice. It's not voluntary at all.
     
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    Nothing wrong with some good ole fashioned Govt Cheese. If you're starving, it's going to taste great.
     
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    Then you should not complain about being fortunate enough to pay taxes.
     
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    Background checks aren't a search that requires a warrant.
     
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    This meme is so old and tired. Over 70% of households that receive food stamps contain children, an elderly person or someone who is disabled.

    Yes there are some folks who abuse the system but I certainly don't think that justifies throwing the baby out with the bath water. I feel strongly about this because I know disabled vets who receive food stamps (along with horrible care at VA hospitals), so I'm not going to do the bandwagon broad brush finger pointing at people who receive those benefits.

    I don't like the people that abuse it, but I don't think taking food out of a kids mouth because his parents suck is right either.
     
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    uh what? Every American Citizen can get welfare if they qualify financially.
     
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    It could be considered criteria for employment, for cause.
     
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    If you're making less than around $50k a year and have kids you may get back more in taxes than you paid in. Guess what that makes you, a dirty, nasty welfare recipient sitting on the couch watching Springer.
     
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    Cash withdrawals at ATM's are available with EBT cards. They withdraw the cash and buy the booze or drugs.
     
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    It's not the taxes in this instance Im complaining about, as you know.

    It's the fact that not drug testing welfare takers is stated as protecting their "Liberty"....which tells me that if you get drug tested at work, which millions of American providers do, you dont have "Liberty".

    I thought we all had it? Surely something I have to do being employed is no more or less legitimate for the one voluntarilly seeking handouts.
     
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    Why is the right not cognitively sonant enough to insist on wartime tax rates for any justification of wartime (social) Powers.

    Is the right merely ensuring the private sector has to "bribe" our elected representatives through such arbitrary form of socialism under our form of Capitalism?
     
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    That's not food stamps. That's a different program. Typically it's only available to people who cannot work.
     
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    Yes, it must be about taxes or the least wealthy should have recourse to morals tests even on a for-profit basis.
     

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