No, the vaccine will not be mandatory.

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  1. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    That’s the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. I have heard some pretty ignorant things.
     
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  2. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    I think it's much dumber to get a vaccine for a virus that has virtually zero chance of killing you.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Do you not understand the difference between "can't kill" and "virtually no chance of killing"?
     
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    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    You don’t take vaccines to kill a virus. My goodness the level in here is mind blowing.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    I never said that.

    I said it's dumb to get a vaccine for a virus that has virtually no chance of killing you. The vast majority of COVID cases are asymptomatic or mild. So why get a vaccine when your immune system is more than capable of dealing with the problem?

    What an ironic statement.
     
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  6. Yulee

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    I can’t even deal with this level of ignorance I’m sorry. Just you do you. You do you.
     
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    It’s becoming overwhelmingly obvious that borrowing trillions and destroying so many perfectly healthy lives in the guise of saving “just one more life”, has been fruitless. So what if we save an elderly person for another 6 months when we destroyed the life of a family that spent a lifetime building savings or a business, for it to fail out of no fault of their own. Such a shame.

    I’ve spoken to a number of elderly including my
    Parents and in-laws that have agreed 100% that they’re perfectly willing to risk death at this stage in their lives then watch them lose massive amounts of their life savings or the future of their grandchildren or a family business. I’d say about 15 people I’ve had this discussion with.

    I’d love to find one REAL person that is around 80 that would rather live another year while the country crumbles around them. Show me this greedy selfish *****. Please.
     
  8. FatBack

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    Lets test it on Congress members first.
     
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    He hasn't even said anything like that, WTF are reading? ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
  10. Ethereal

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    Everything I said is factual.

    The vast majority of COVID cases are mild or asymptomatic. At least 99.5% of people who contract COVID survive. A vaccine simply isn't necessary for the vast majority of people. Their immune systems will take care of the problem.
     
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    WOW :icon_jawdrop::wierdface::psychoitc::eyepopping::confuse::alcoholic::weed::rant:
     
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    Good luck to you with this LMFAO ;)
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never mind that you could get the virus, not know, and spread it to a population of folks who have a much higher chance of dying but are unable to get the vaccine. How incredibly selfish of you.
     
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    The sheer ignorance is astounding. SMH



    Merica, folks.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just out of curiosity, can any of the vaccine-paranoid folks here explain what they think of when they worry about a "mandatory" vaccine? Like people come to your house and hold you down for the shot? Or you just get jailed if you don't get it? Or something milder than that?
     
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    Taking a flu vaccine is a way to marginally improve your quality of life. Plus, it slows spread to others, some of whom ARE at risk.

    Ignoring that hits me as a rather silly and self centered decision.

    As for COVID, the same goes, but to a much more serious extent.
     
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    Nothing to say?
     
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    Correct.
    The true story of the polio vaccine is more like a long and winding road fraught with landmines.

    In fact, the first polio vax was a total disaster, and Salk, himself, said so.
    Later, the Sabin vax came, and wasn't a disaster, but results were mediocre.
    See, during Truman, before most folks had TV sets, news was delivered via newsreels at break during matinees ( movie houses )
    There was a newsreel going around with Truman and Salk touting 'a new vaccine is on the horizon' and much hoopla came with it.
    Well, when the Salk vaccine was introduced, polio cases went up drastically in a number of states, it was a disaster.
    Something had to be done, so a guy named Sabin came the rescue. Still, results didn't match the hoopla.
    so, what did they do?

    They changed the parameters of what was to be called 'polio' and what was to be called 'accute flaccid paralysis , aseptic meningitis ( and other names ).
    In other words, by taking the paralysis from the definition, voila, polio stats went down! Vaccine a success!

    This was reported on in the Chicago Tribune, link below and the pertinent verbiage quoted

    In fact, the first polio vaccine was tainted with SV 40 ( a simian monkey virus) because the vaccines were cultured ( or whatever the correct word is ) in monkey kidneys.
    and this virus was injected in MILLIONS of citizens of the world, inadvertantly, via the Salk vaccine. We're all boomers now, but cancer stats increased. The CDC admitted this ,and had a web page on it, but they removed it. ( luckily, there is a screenshot here)
    http://forums.musculardevelopment.c...-polio-vaccine-contaminated-with-cancer-virus

    But, in fact, polio, like many other diseases, were in steep decline before the vaccine was introduced. This report explains the vaccines arcane history in tremendous detail.
    Of course, the pharma astroturfed the polio vaccine to such a degree it is now 'conventional wisdom' that if you challenge establishment on vaccine you are a crackpot, etc. They are winning, they are backed by billions ( a good portion of which comes from the sale of vaccines)

    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdo...FCDBC7C?doi=10.1.1.207.3859&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    A very interesting TED lecture on 'astroturfing'.



    When it comes to vaccines, things aren't really what they seem. However, some vaccines are good, no doubt about it. But not all. They should be researched on a case by case basis, factoring in the subject. Doctors tend to give them out like candy, and in my view, that is wrong. I have a friend whose daughter went into anaphylactic shock following an HPV vax, and now she is having seizures which she had not previously ever had. She was allergic to one of the ingredients, but the doctors didn't check, and in fact, most doctors do not even read the labels. So, what I'm against is this 'one size fits all' mentality. They don't do that with drugs, so why are they doing this with vaccines?
     
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  20. LangleyMan

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    It depends on your age and health. We don't know what the long-term impact of an infection may be, nor can we determine who may be at risk of having difficulty even though they don't have a known health problem.
     
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    My understanding is that one vaccine producer failed to inactivate the virus.
     
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    The death rate of 0.5% is a guess. It could be higher--or lower.
    There are a number of people over 65 who have a managed health condition and would last for many years if they don't get COVID-19.
    A moderately healthy 70-year-old will on average live to 86.
    This is how people feel..
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    You can open the mall, but if covidiots are spreading the virus around, a lot of people will stay home. British Columbia has never had a shut down, but they did close businesses likely to spread the virus around. People were never told they had to stay home.

    Having wrestled their numbers down...

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    ... the people are starting to go to the store.
     
  23. Ethereal

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    "A population of folks"

    Like who? What percentage of the overall population are they? And what does the "average" person in this group look like in terms of their overall health?

    There is nothing selfish about taking care of my body and trying to live a normal life.
     
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    At least 99.5% of people who get infected survive. And those that do die are usually too old and sick to benefit from a vaccine in any case. The idea that huge amounts of people need to get vaccinated against COVID is just stupid.
     
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    "You guys?" Who are you talking about? I'm tired of seeing idiotic nonsense like calling SARS-CoV-2 a flu virus.
     

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