Noah

Why is Noah believing his God wanted to get rid of all humans a "lie?" And, Noah wouldn't be the only one in the Bible ready to kill children based on his belief of what God's wish was! So what is so "untruth" about this version? NO ONE knows one way or another. . .remember?

 

Well. . .it's pretty simple! Do you think the animals without the human help could have survived the "flood," or escape (alive) the arch? Noah and his families were the care taker of the animals. . .and without anymore children (female children), it is obvious that the human race (based only on the Bible version. . .obviously!) would have been extinct. . .especially considering that, based on the Bible, the world was FLAT.

 

Would you rather they show Genesis' depiction of Noah killing his son because he saw him sitting naked in a drunken stupor? All his son did was cover him up.... which I guess is a bad thing?

Not exactly "family values".

 

Different subject. This is about the movie, and its usurpation of the story of Noah. The movie is typical of the progs in Hollywood, they now see there is money to be made in Christian movies and are attempting to cash in on it, but they don't know what the are doing.

 

No, it's exactly the same subject. As you stated, the story was usurped by an agenda. Only, it was a family-friendly agenda that conveniently avoided the truth -- that Noah was a drunken loser who would pass out naked and harm his children for no apparent reason.

 

The movie replaced the actual religious aspects with an environmental agenda. Thats the problem, it replaced the Biblical message with a modern environmental message.

The Old Testament has many hard lessons which can be difficult to understand particularly by secular people. If the movie was true to the Biblical story even including difficult events, I'm OK with that. The Last Temptation of Christ is not exactly tame, but its accurate and therefore was very well received.

 

Secularists are perfectly able to understand The Bible. Some of us were even once Christian. In fact, what turned me away from Christianity was actually reading The Bible and realizing how barbaric and cruel it was.

 

Noah's sons had wives already when they went into the ark. There were eight people in the Ark. Of course God want to save the human race. Otherwise why would HE allow the wives of Noah's son into the Ark? Don't believe the movie, it's all lies.

 

The Bible never said the earth was flat. In fact the Bible claim the earth is round and hang in space.
Flat earth was the Vatican's theory they made up, because they don't really read the Bible.

Isaiah 40:21 & 22 "Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in."

Job 26:7 "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing."

 

You're so funny! And you know that the Bible version is factual, right? Why? Were you one of the person on the arch? And, since "no one survived" who wasn't on the arch. . . the ONLY thing we "know" about it is "self-reporting" by people who spoke a language dead for thousands of years, and couldn't write!

Have you ever played "wireless phone" when you were a kid? You know, that game when a group of people say one sentence only in the ear of their neighbor, who "repeats it" to his neighbor. . . until the circle is complete and the original player hears what the last participant "heard?"

Was that last "interpretation" of that ONE sentence EVER accurate?

I don't believe the movie. . .it's not made to be "believed!" And I don't believe the Bible. . .it is not made to be believed literally either. . .based on that. . . either they are both "lies" or both could be "truth."

 

I think the reason God appear cruel in OT is because in the ancient time, there were fallen angels(the watchers) and their hybrids--Nephilim roamed the earth. The flood was to destroy all these ungodly offsprings and evicted the fallen angels from earth. Only Noah and his family remind total pure human DNA, that's may be the reason why God picked Noah and save them.

 

Such stubborn heart, hope one day the Lord will open the eyes of your heart.

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It was not God who's barbaric and cruel. It was the fallen angels and their offsprings---nephilims.

 

Guess what? It is my God's given sense of integrity and logic that allow me to look at the silliness of taking the bible as the "literal" word of God as entirely MAN MADE. It is insulting the God's gifts to mankind to ignore the intelligence, logic and free, independent thinking ability that HE/SHE/IT bestowed on mankind.

I respect that you need to believe in the literal word of the Bible. . . . it is a choice you make, and I respect free choice. But there is NO WAY I will take a VERBAL story told in MANY dead languages and translated to paper thousands of years after those "stories" happened as "the literal word of God."

For me, the Bible is an important and worthy historical record of men's search for God and their struggle to make sense of this world, of their fear, of their desires. . .but it is in no way to be taken literally.

 

Only eight people feeding millions of animals. Such industrious people.

 

I don't believe that's possible either. But there are different theory on that. One is that they used some kind of herbs to make all animals sleep as the movie showed. The other is that the Ark could be a DNA vault, which mean the Ark didn't have to be so big either.

 

Wow! So they had the technology to separate and conserve DNA and CREATE life from that DNA alone? You mean. . .like cloning?
And you believe that the movie is "a lie?"

 

I don't take Bible literally either. Because there are so much metaphors and prophecies, it won't make sense to study it all literally. God has a mystery way to protect his word, I worry not about the verbal and dead language. We can see so many prophecies has come true, take the rebirth of Israel as example, that prove the Bible is the word of God.

 

It's one possible theory. Any advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. God is the original creator of any advanced technology, he could taught Noah how to do it.

 

I had not heard that arguement before. It makes sense, as part of Noah's righteousness he and his family followed God's laws including not having sex with the fallen angels.

 

Wow.
The entire flood myth is fiction that's been repeated throughout history by people too stupid to realize that there isn't enough water in existance to create that kind of event.

Every time this fiction is repeated, it relates to a different deity and a different hero... What makes you think that it's a Christian story?

 

Yeah....a worldwide flood high enough to cover all land masses would end up in the extinction of all life on Earth...FOREVER.

Issues such as the increased mass of Earth allowing Earth to break Solar Orbit and freeze in deep space...as well increases in Gravity by 7% to 9% along with increased atmospheric pressure wich would make breathing air like breathing SOUP thus all would die.

And as LOG has said...there does not exist enough water ice or liquid water on Earth to flood the Earth completely as even if all Polar and Greenland ice melted the sea levels would only raise a bit over 200 feet high.

To cover all land masses with water sea levels would have to increase by 5.5 Miles high.

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My favorite theory growing up regarding how the flood came about has to be the one where apparently the world used to have a "crust" of ice surrounding it with enough water to flood the world. Never mind how it stayed up there or what happened to the water afterwards.

I am a Christian and I believe in God but I am fully aware that not only was the Bible written by mere men but that it was cobbled together by the medieval Roman Catholic church.......you remember the ones that said you could buy your way out of purgatory if you bought indulgences. The book is also full of metaphors and stories as well and there is nothing indicating that Genesis is supposed to be read any differently than Revelations.

 

The earth is hollow, did the researchers count the water underground?

No, it's not the Christian story only, it's ancient story among all different civilizations around the world, they have different culture and language but share the same story, that's just prove that the world flood happened, prove the story in the Bible happened. But why do I pick Christian one? Because only the Christian one portrait God is a loving God and forgiveness.

 

That's the point, to extinct all life on Earth, mainly the ungodly offsprings---the Nephilims and make the Watchers(fallen angels) leave the earth. Except Noah, his family and all animals and species that were in the Ark. I suspect the Ark was more than just a big wooden boat. After the 40 days and nights rain, the water evaporated and the ground became dry again, I don't see how it can't start a new life for all the livings.

That's just a theory.

The Bible stated that the water prevailed above the mountains, covering them 15 cubits deep, one cubit is about 18 inches. 18 times 15, so, the water was 270 inches above the mountains.

Let's see, 1 foot=12 inches, 270 inches divided by 12 = 22.5 feet. The water was 22.5 feet above the mountains, about 3 stories high building.

Did you just say "even if all Polar and Greenland ice melted the sea levels would only raise a bit over 200 feet high"...

It didn't need 200 feet high, the flood was only 22.5 feet above the mountains, so there was enough water to cover up the entire world.

 

You know what, actually it had enough water. see my post above. What's really myth is there not enough water to cover up the entire world....hahahahahaha..........