Noah

It is a common knowledge that the Roman Catholic church often interpret the Bible wrong. Just don't listen to them. They shouldn't be a reason to discredit the Bible. The Bible clearly stated the earth is round and hung in space thousands of thousands years ago when men still think the earth was flat. If the Bible writers weren't inspire by the Holy Spirit, how could they had the knowledge of the earth is round and hung in space?

So, you see, the Bible is the WORD OF GOD.

 

I am not talking about interpretation. The Roman Catholic Church actually picked which books were included and which books were left out of the Bible that we all know today. Since they weren't trustworthy on a variety of issues why should I assume that they were any more trustworthy when they cobbled together the Bible? Who is to say that because of political machinations false books were included while legitimate books were left out simply do to the preference of the clergy at the time.

 

I know, like the book of Enoch, such informative book of the Watchers and ancient world, they chose to hide it from us. What give them the right to do that? The Roman Catholic church just want to suppress knowledge, keep the mass ignorant, so they can easily control us. Such unholy institution. I feel pity for the billion masses who still follow them.

 

How tall do you believe a mountain is?
There is no universally excepted height requirement for a "mountain" (http://www.howitworksdaily.com/environment/when-does-a-hill-become-a-mountain/), so let's aim low and assume we're talking about land formations that are only 1000 feet above sea level.

By your calculations, this means that the average water level would have needed to rise 1022.5 feet - and that still wouldn't have covered most mountains, just the smallest ones. That means that "even if all Polar and Greenland ice melted", you still would have had less than 20% of the necessary water.

 

We are just counting the ice melted, what about all the rives, lakes, swamps, and what about the underground water, the earth is hollow, we don't know how much water there is in there. I wouldn't too sure there are not enough water.

 

I didn't know Noah card about climate change and overpopulation. Whatever. Still wasn't a bad movie.

 

Ok... Back to school:

1) the earth's radius is roughly 4,000 miles, which equals 19,200,000 feet.
2) this means the earth's total volume can be calculated to 29,647,787,924,975,100,000,000 cubic feet.
3) There are mountains on earth over 29,000 feet tall, and you're saying the flood put the top of those mountains 22.5 feet underwater.
4) The earth would have been effectively encased in a sphere of water, with that sphere having a radius of 19,229,022.5 feet.
5) That water sphere would have a total volume of 29,782,437,023,597,700,000,000 cupic feet.
6) Subtracting the current planet from that sphere, to see how much additional water we're talking about, gives us a total volume of 134,649,098,622,590,000,000 cubic feet of "missing water".

Are you starting to get how silly this is?

 

The additional mass due to water levels increasing by over 5.5 miles high to cover all continents due to the Inverse Square Law of Gravity would increase Gravitic Effect on this higher ocean surface 7% to 9%.

This added mass would be enough to cause Earth to escape Solar Orbit and Earth would freeze in the depths of space.

As well this increase of mater would also compress atmosphere and atm. pressure would result in every breath feeling like a person was breathing soup...thus all life would die.

AboveAlpha

 

No, this is good, we may have 134,649,098,622,590,000,000 cubic feet of "missing water", that mean there are enough water to cover up the entire world.

 

This is a guess. what about ice age then, the ice won't cause Earth to escape Solar Orbit and Earth would freeze in the depths of space?

The pressure in atmosphere would be gone once the water evaporated. Noah stayed on the Ark for almost ten months, I think. Beside, I doubt the flood happened less than 10,000 years ago, I believe it happened way way long before the last ice age. when the time the earth's atmosphere and gravity were different.

 

What are you talking about? The fact that we have that much water "missing" means we don't have enough water to cover the entire world to the depth you claim... That's why it's missing.

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You do understand that a quantity of water is still the same quantity of water whether it's frozen or liquid, right?

 

Based on our previous exchanges it feels unnatural to be agreeing with you.

 

But could all the Ice in ice age cause Earth to escape Solar Orbit and Earth would freeze in the depths of space as the all the water in the flood as he claimed..

Let me ask you, does the earth have enough water to have ice age and cover the entire earth?

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How wonderful....two atheists reconciled.....

 

I watched a review of this film on YouTube, where the guy said it isn't a bad movie, but he could see where the bible thumpers might be upset at it.

Me, I don't have that much interest in seeing a slick new film adaptation of some biblical myth. I sure as heck-fire wouldn't pay theater price to see it.

 

The amount of water currently on earth does not have enough mass to cause this planet to escape solar orbit, whether it's solid or frozen doesn't make any difference.

Snarky much?

 

Ice ages occur when there is a period in our Earth's SOLAR ORBIT as the Earth's orbit around the sun has a distinct WOBBLE and because of it every so many thousands of years the Earth will experience COOLING TRENDS due to less Solar Radiation encountering the Earth....and WARMING TRENDS...caused by more Solar Radiation encountering the Earth.

This is known as the Milankovitch Cycles.

Milankovitch theory describes the collective effects of changes in the Earth's movements upon its climate, named after Serbian geophysicist and astronomer Milutin Milanković, who worked on it during his internment as a First World War prisoner of war (POW). Milanković mathematically theorized that variations in eccentricity, axial tilt, and precession of the Earth's orbit determined climatic patterns on Earth through orbital forcing.

The Earth's axis completes one full cycle of precession approximately every 26,000 years. At the same time the elliptical orbit rotates more slowly. The combined effect of the two precessions leads to a 21,000-year period between the astronomical seasons and the orbit. In addition, the angle between Earth's rotational axis and the normal to the plane of its orbit (obliquity) oscillates between 22.1 and 24.5 degrees on a 41,000-year cycle. It is currently 23.44 degrees and decreasing.

LINK...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

Now....when we are in a cooling trend the Earth's air and ocean temps. fall thus causing a build up of ice on the poles and the Northern Hemisphere....and when we have Ice Ages our OCEAN LEVELS FALL as the water evaporates and it is changed to snow and this collects in the Polar Regions, Greenland and eventually Glaciers cover North America more than half way south of the United States and cover Europe and Asia along the same line.

The thing is there has always been only a certain amount of water on Earth since most of the Comets that impacted upon Earth several Billion years ago deposited this Water as a Comet is basically a giant dirty Ice Ball and this is how Earth got it's oceans.

Mar's had massive oceans as well but because Mars interior cooled it's inner and outer Liquid Metallic cores stopped spinning and Earths still spin and they create a protective Electromagnetic Field around Earth which prevents harmful Solar and Cosmic Radiation from bombarding the planet.

When the EM Field failed on Mars it allowed Solar and Cosmic Radiation to separate Water H2O into Hydrogen and Oxygen Gases and thus Mars lost it's oceans as without an EM Field Cosmic and Solar Radiation such as UV-Light cause a chemical reaction to take place in water.

Now on Earth our EM Field prevents this but the amount of water either in liquid or solid form on Earth cannot exist in larger amounts than exist.

Thus even if all water Ice such as all the ice on the North and South Polar regions and Greenland Ice and all the ice on every mountain top all melted....it would only increase ocean sea levels by a bit over 200 feet.

An increase of over 5.5 MILES of Liquid Water would be necessary to cover all land masses on Earth and this amount of water either liquid or ice simply DOES NOT EXIST ON EARTH.

And as I stated....even if say Millions of Comets carrying ice water bombarded Earth and they melted and water levels did rise over 5.5 Miles...this is what would happen.

The bombardment of Comets upon Earth in the Millions or perhaps BILLIONS required to increase sea levels by over 5.5 Miles would be like exploding a TRILLION TRILLION Nuclear Bombs!!!

Everything would die.

AboveAlpha

 

Prove the flood was global before making silly claims like that.

 

That is a silly thing to ask him.

Neither he nor I or anyone else other than those Religious saying there was a GLOBAL FLOOD are saying there was one.

Why would you ever ask this question of him?

AboveAlpha...p.s....TELL ME WHAT YOU CLAIM I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT A/C'S

 

Well then you are admitting you are discussing a topic and know nothing about it.....no wonder you have it wrong.

 

You know....it is one thing to debate and argue a point...it is another matter all together to accuse a person of not understanding or knowing about something....and after that person asks you to detail out what it is exactly you are claiming they don't know....YOU SIDE STEP AND REFUSE TO POINT IT OUT!!!

Now you claim I don't understand how an air conditioner works....and you use this claim saying that because I don't understand how it works anything else I post must be wrong.

I know EXACTLY how an A/C works!

So either post to me what it is I don't know....or RETRACT YOUR IDIOTIC POST!!!

AboveAlpha

 

LOL! You know exactly what I am talking about here. No need to rehash it just admit you know nothing about the flood and AC. That will save you the embarrassment.

 

I thought there might be some saving grace in you but I was wrong.

I am asking man to man for you to specifically PROVE you accusation that I don't understand how an A/C works...but you are not a man....you are not even a Teen....you are acting like a spoiled 3 year old BRAT who has been caught in a lie so rather than just stating what your accusation is....you post the idiocy of the above.

The thing is you can't even see how you look by doing this to other members.

The vast majority of members post to you negatively because of the way you post and the only members you might count upon as supporters are those so far out on the fringe that they as well have lost grip with reality and are basically in the same BOAT...PUN INTENDED....as you are.

It is obvious to most members that you have deep seated issues that cause you to post to other members in this manner and my Topic specific to attempting to help men who are having a hard time with women or perhaps have become lonely and bitter due to living long periods of time without any female companionship....well...I am sure I and most members can understand how that would effect you negatively so that the result is your posting M.O. here.

I will give you some advice and you can decide to take it or not.

Instead of purposely attempting to argue just for the sake of argument....why not read what another members posts and then post back to them what you might agree with and disagree with?

After all members are never always going to see eye to eye....but at the very least a mutual respect can be forged rather than purposely attempting to antagonize others just for kicks.

You might find that people might even stop loathing you and you might even form friendships rather than forming relationships based upon bitter disagreement.

AboveAlpha

 

I see. You were so embarrassed by your lack of knowledge that you have totally blocked it out...Ouch!... it must have been traumatic for you.

Anywho, people debate here. Like it or not that means taking different viewpoints and seeing who can best layout their position. That is all I do, layout my position. Sometimes that involves posting things others don't like. Some react in an immature way while others, like myself, choose to react in a more mature way. How others "view" that is not under my control so I am not concerned with that.

If you can't handle the fact you are discussing something you have admitted to knowing little about then maybe you should stick to topics you know. Just a little advice.

 

Are you living in this world?

#1. What did I post that said I admitted to not knowing about something?

#2. What are you saying I don't understand about Air Conditioning?

AboveAlpha

 

The topic is the flood mentioned in the Bible. I asked someone else to prove it was a global flood and you chimed in. Can you prove it was global?