Not wearing a mask can cost you $50 in South Beach under new COVID crackdown

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  1. Well Bonded

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    And you fail to realize while respirators are marginally useful, masks are totally useless for preventing the spread of a virus.

    So maybe get a clue before criticizing others because of your intellectual impotence of the subject.
     
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    If the virus is spread by droplets in your breath, then a mask will absolutely help slow the spread of the virus.
     
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    Nope, masks leak like a sieve and as the droplets are captured they will later release from the mask and be either inhaled or sent airborne as much lighter droplets causing the person wearing the mask to contaminate a much larger area had hey just coughed or sneezed in a single spot.

    Masks are a feelgood, and while respirators do provide much better filtering, they still have the evaporation problem, and many respirators people are wearing now a days have a check valve that allows exhaled breath to bypass the respirator on it's way out.

    That stated what too many people fail to understand or ignore is a respirator can cause serious problems for the user, I use 3M N-95 respirators when working with certain types of wood and process's with wood, mostly sanding hardwood, the N-95 respirator is designed for that, however if I wear one and do not change it out every hour of so I will develop a series of pimples and a rash that makes me look like a 14 year old going through puberty, and they last quite a while and are very painful.

    The problem is, 3M N-95's are not sterile and when they get wet with sweat become face mounted Petri dish's, so the dang near uselessness of the N-95 combined with the side effects of wearing one, precludes any benefit it provides, think about it, wearing one captures warm breath then captures whatever the filter traps when the person inhales, warm and moist combined with who knows what is inhaled is a perfect recipe for breeding some very nasty respiratory problems for the wearer.

    Now I have the feeling government is going to cave to the mask radicals so I purchased a couple of 3M 6000 series respirators and matching gas filters, those filters will block a virus so if I have to wear one the benefits get close to the problems wearing one causes, 6000 series respirators are made of silicone and can be sterilized with alcohol, I use them when painting or working with insecticides and I can wear one all day long because it is easy to keep clean.

    The problem is the cost, most people will not spend the money to purchase the proper PPE for the job, they are either trying to comply with government regulations or are a part of the feelgood, look at me I am wearing a mask group.

    The latter being a large part of those insisting everyone needs to wear a mask and will try to shame those who don't by claimimg they don't care about people around them which is propaganda.

    However, they have no problem wearing a mask that does nothing other than make feel better about their uninformed selves.

    And I will give you an example how stupid those enforcing the regulations are.

    My son works in Broward County where masks are required, he borrowed my original 3M 6000 mask from my shop, he found it to be very uncomfortable to wear because the filters needed to be replaced but could not be had anywhere.

    He took the filters off meaning he was inhaling unfiltered and exhaling through the masks check valve meaning his breath was also unfiltered, a Broward Code Enforcement Officer stopped by his store to do an inspection, he commented "glad to see you wearing that mask, (which it is not) they are very effective," which without filters it is not, and even with filters they protect no one from the wearer if that person is infected with CV-19.

    This mask thing is nothing more than scare based ideas propagated by people who understand very little about PPE and how to select the proper PPE for the task.

    Fortunately for me I received a lot of training from my employer on how to select the proper respirator for the tasks one might be getting into.
     
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    Wearing a mask is like anything else. If you don't use it properly, then it's useless. Saturation points are definitely a thing, and proper cleaning and care is essential.

    But, if used properly, then it is absolutely an effective way to limit the spread.
     
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    That only applies to respirators, masks are for the most part useless.
     
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    1. The HBPD did the entire stretch of HB. I only shared a few photos. You are still talking out of the side of your neck as some inland kook that doesn't know anything about SoCal Beach communities. The city officially thanked the citizens for social distancing.
    2. It happened on Beaches with predominantly Democratic Party leadership like Long Beach, Santa Monica, and Newport Beach. Again, you don't know what you are talking about, but here you are.
    3. The number of Covid cases is not relevant. Testing is way up, thus more case. Riots and Protests happened, so the cases are way up. But, it doesn't matter. Only the hospitalization rate above available beds matter and the Death Rate matter. Neither are critical.
    4. You failed again, but that's just who you are.

    Democrats like this guy want Authoritarian rule over the populace. They told us to hunker down for 2 weeks, then 2 months, now indefinitely. They will keep moving the goal posts and make absurd claims like protests don't spread the virus. They they Americans are stupid and sheep.

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    Couldn't reply system keeps freezing
     
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    and your talking out of you azz. Your original post on the subject had nothing to do with HB. And that's the quote I answered. post 115 "A mask on a beach protects no one. This is for sheep" dodging the subject you referred to many beaches not only HB. How long are your going to ignore your own original quote about masks. What are you a 10 year old?
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    Once again you completely run away from your own original statement on post 115
    'A mask on a beach protects no one. This is for sheep.' Then switched it to only NB. Your Mask statement is ridiculous and absurd. And yet you run away
    from it over and over. Keep running.
    So large numbers of people who are sick and in the hospital facing possible death aren't relevant!???? I'm throwing up as I type this.
    That's only because to you the large numbers of sick and the dying are meaningless. Trump could care less about human existence he only wants to win.
    And you keep moving the goal post as to the acceptable number of cases some of which will lead to death. 9 out of 10 states who have set new case records are republican and also in your warped world people who wear masks staying 6 feet apart are sheep. Unsafe practices and trying to keep healthy is negative in your book.. Meanwhile Trump holds an indoor rally with masks optional where people are sitting next to each other.. So you're rooting for unsafe practices wide spread disease in some cases leading to death. That tells us exactly who you are.
     
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    they would never get away with this kinda communism under Republican run Laguna Beach.
     
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    virus's only spread by exchanging blood, which is why homosexual fornication causes HIV and then AIDs.

    masks are nothing more than fear mongering
     
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    The CV-19 virus survives in water which is why it can be transmitted by a person's breath.

    Also it's worth noting when the temps and humidity is high droplets will not travel as far as they will in a above freezing cold dry atmosphere.
     
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    it is a biological weapon from china called the 'kung flu', it has nothing to do with the flu

    a mask cannot stop a biologically engineered disease
     
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    A mask is just about useless for stopping anything from being inhaled or exhaled, they simple leak too much air around the wearers face.

    A respirator is a tad better but still will not prevent the passing of a virus.

    Basically if you put on some form of respiratory protection and can still smell odords in the air you know it is providing very little protection, for you or those around you.
     
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    the masks are a reminder that capitalist countries should never do business with commies.

    china is doing a genocide of American's with weakened immune systems because they no longer want to do business with them.
     
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    lol.... Laguna may be one of the richest areas, but Republican they are not. It's hyper-elite area.
     
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    Untrue.

    Completely false and ridiculous to boot.

    They do help more then not wearing one does

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    Bull, put on a face mask and walk into a walk in freezer, you will notice a lot of a fog in front of your mouth of nose as you exhale, that's moisture and the longer you breathe through that mask the more fog you will notice as the mask becomes saturated.

    So lets say a person sneezes, they create a plume of exhaled moisture around them, that's all, now what happens if a person sneezes in a mask, the mask traps a lot of the moisture because of the size of the droplets, however due to evaporation those droplets become smaller and then are either re-inhaled by the person wearing the mask or are pushed out of it when the person exhales and if that person is moving that person will contaminate a much larger area then if not wearing a mask.

    Also your video is false, it does not show a person wearing a mask, the person in that video is wearing a respirator, which is quite different compared to a mask.
     
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    So glad I don't have a seat belt, being flung around by my motorcycle would be hell.

    I told my Kiwi girlfriend when I rented a car, and she told me to put on my seatbelt, when my country requires me to wear a seat belt I'll say it is not a free country; this is not a free country.

    If by law one must wear a mask in Florida, how about the gubermint buy us all air conditioned PAPR?

    I'm all for wearing a mask, do all the time, but must wear a mask, so much more appropriate to force by law the renaming of the Jim Crow Party to "Snowflake."
     
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    Odds always better.

    It's maybe worse than we thought, tiny particles linger longer, like really airborne.
     
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    Bio vyzr
    Coming to a store near you
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    Not kidding
     
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    Perfect, and if one wears one they should be exempt from all lockdown orders or business closures.

    Further, can we get a few hundred here in Vermont so the ****ing legislature can go back to work and stop hiding behind zoom meetings?

    Get some for judges too.

    Oh, how could I forget. The ****ing DMV could open, or at least they could go onto the office and send me my tags and registration. It's been months. Send them one, let them share it. Only one works at a time anyway.
     
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    The more they can destroy normal the better they have done their job, CV-19 has been so politicized it isn't funny.
     
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    Wow, now we celebrate Independence Day with a some good old fashioned liberal fascism. Bravo!
     

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