Obama Establishes Fascism by Executive Order

Marshall Law is next...mark my words, unless someone in DC has a spine and puts a stop to this demented autocrat. He just does what he wants to do and could care less because he is "protected".

 

All that language is taken verbatim from the EO that the new EO is updating:
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/pdf/12919.pdf

In that regard, all Obama's EO does is say who is responsible for doing what. It doesn't change what they can do.

Which, indeed, would be impossible. Only Congress can grant authority to do stuff.

 

Oh yeah, just relax.

Those Tiger Tanks are there for your protection, and pay no attention to the people being loaded on to the trains. We are moving them to a safer location...

Sound familiar? That was Nazi Germany about 70 years ago.

You may like what this Tyrant is doing, but I do not and I find your lack of understanding that he is evil personified repugnant!

 

It's spelled "martial."

And Obama can't do anything that Congress doesn't grant him the power to do.

You guys are paranoid loons.

 

You know what? Bite me and my spelling. I am upset.Upset that this individual does what he wants in total disregard to our original intent.

 

Yes. But this is America today, and your description bears no relation to current reality.

How can he be a tyrant when he can't do anything without Congress first granting him the power to do it?

"Evil personified"? Okay, I get it. You're just trolling for fun. Whew! For a while there I thought you were serious.

 

Marshal Law was, however, a fun comic from the 80s-90s. I own the six-issue limited series:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshal_Law_(comics)

You guys are still loons.

 

This man has shown an utter contempt for congress...they just get in his way. This is the beginning of Obama rigging an election.

You need only to read the “Definitions” section of the EO in order to see that terms such as “food resources” is an umbrella that includes every form of food and food-related product that could be beneficial to human survival. “Section 601 – Secretary of Labor” delegates special responsibilities to the Secretary of Labor as it involves not just materials citizens will need for survival, but the actual citizens themselves. Section 601 also provides for the mobilization of “labor” for purposes of the national defense. Some subsections read that evaluations are to be made regarding the “effect and demand of labor utilization,” the implication is that “labor” (meaning American workers) will be considered yet one more resource to be seized for the purposes of “national defense.”

This is a sick puppy!

 

You understand how an Executive Order works, right?

 

Obama Establishes Fascism by Executive Order


Wow ... sounds really scarey, maybe we should bring our troops home to fight this War?

 

Please point out all the evidence of Obama getting ready to rig the election. And further, how this EO could play a role in that.

That is language taken from the law passed in 1950. All Obama's EO does is specify who will be responsible for carrying out which part of the law.

You do realize that what they're talking about is a WW II-style mobilization, right? Where the government, in a national emergency, takes over control of resources needed for national defense, including food? During World War II there was rationing of food, metal and other things needed to run the military and military production. It's kind of how it works.

Even the language "in peacetime" is part of the original law -- recognizing that securing access to and control of strategically important resources is not something that can wait until shooting starts.

This law has been in effect, with substantially similar language, for 60 years. It's not controversial -- at least until it gets misread by paranoid loons.

 

Yes. Do you?

An executive order only has power insofar as it is within the power of the executive branch.

Obama could issue an EO declaring himself dictator for life, and it would have no effect at all; he does not have the authority to do so.

 

But it still sounds scarey to the fearful.

He not one of "us", he's one of "them".

Ooooooowwwwww Scary!

 

He shares that sentiment with the American people if you've seen the latest polls.

Wow, this man is amazing. He now has a time machine where he can go back to the 1950s and setup an election rigging...

Lol... listen to the sheeple still go "BAAAAAAA" even after they've been led to their proper pen.

You're just going to completely ignore the fact that this EO is just a reaffirmation of legislation dating back to the 1950s, aren't you?

 

To the fearful *and* ignorant. You have to not only be fearful; you have to not understand what it is you're reading.

 

The evidence will come to light, one day at a time. believe what you will, but don't cry about it later.

 

Looks like this all applies to the contracts suppliers have with the government, contracts in the defense industry, and general government procurment.

what's the worry here unless you're a federal government contractor?

 

All governments over time tend towards authoritarianism this is nothing new. Executive orders as these have been passed since the beginning of this nation. As such we will hit a critical point where a single "declared emergency" large enough will grant the federal government direct unlimited power over this country. This isn't something that may happen, it will happen it's a matter of when and how.

 

The delegation of control of the nation's resources and people is particularly troubling because the heads of America's resources shall have this power "under both emergency and non-emergency conditions" to control every aspect of our lives. And under this executive order, the President is to the sole decider of what constitutes an emergency (Section 201, paragraph b)."

Section 601: "upon request by the Director of Selective Service, and in coordination with the Secretary of Defense, assist the Director of Selective Service in development of policies regulating the induction and deferment of persons for duty in the armed services" (paragraph 2). Why would the Department of Labor be in charge of the coming military draft?

 

To translate: "I have no evidence, none at all. I'm just making (*)(*)(*)(*) up."

Come back when you have something substantial to say.

 

Maybe if you gave this a few seconds' thought, the answer would come to you. But that doesn't seem to be your modus operandi.

You don't just draft everyone. You give deferments to various classes of people. One of those classes is people who are critical to the war effort -- for instance, specially skilled workers in airplane factories. Or refineries. Etc.

Defense and Labor coordinate so that Defense gets the people it needs while Labor has input on what workers/industries should be excluded from the draft. Plus, Labor has more detailed information on the economy and the workforce than Defense does.

 

Sure, whatever, keep your head in the sand.

 

tlling me about the Draft is a waste of time as I was a Draftee in Viet Nam. Criticalto the war effort...means if you aren't a son or daughter of a congressman or anyone in government.

 

Interesting pivot. You claim to see no reason for Labor to be involved. I give you the reason. You then say "I knew that" but claim it'll be the rich and connected getting the deferments.

Which, while at least partly true (if history is any guide, the connected have an easier time getting deferments than other people), represents a complete abandonment of your "why would Labor be involved in the draft" leading question.

Do you have any actual points that a) have evidence to back them up, b) don't rely on a misreading of the EO and c) don't immediately fall apart under even cursory examination?

 

This is the beginning of a Marxist State. You can ignore it and cry later, or call your congressman and voice your displeasure with his tyrannical reaching.