Obama Quitly Signs Ban To Prevent Ownership Of The Famous WW2 M-1 Garand Rifle

sigh. Okay just because I get tired of people making stuff up

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/how-to/import-firearms-ammo-implements-of-war.html
Remember: If you are a Federal firearms licensee Type “08” or “11” but you have not registered as an importer under the Arms Export Control Act, you are restricted to importing sporting shotguns, sporting shotgun ammunition, and sporting shotgun parts for resale

If the U.S. military defense articles “contain U.S. manufactured parts or components and/or foreign manufactured parts or components that were manufactured with U.S. technical data or assistance,” you must first obtain written retransfer authorization from the U.S. Department of State, Office of Defense Trade Controls

These are military weapons, and require ATF approval to import them into the country- and in this case both ATF and State Departement approval.

The U.S. Government absolutely has rules which can prohibit the importation of weapons into the U.S. and specifically the importation of military weapons.

You have no 'right' to import firearms- you have a right to own firearms.


I can't think of a good common sense reason why these weapons shouldn't be allowed to be imported, and I would love to see some more actual information on what has happened since the first report of the denial 14 months ago. But the U.S. government completely has the authority to do this.

Here more information on government restrictions on importing firearms:

http://www.hqusareur.army.mil/opm/guns.htm
If you acquire a firearm that someone else brought from the USA or if you buy one abroad, you will have to obtain an import permit from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF).

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/importation-verification/
This guide presents a comprehensive overview of the importation process and provides both relevant and definitive explanations of procedural functions by outlining the existing imports controls including the Arms Export Control Act (AECA), the National Firearms Act (NFA) and the Gun Control Act (GCA).

A surplus military firearm is any firearm which has ever been possessed by a regular or irregular military force. Surplus military firearms are prohibited from importation under 18 U.S.C. § 925(d)(3); however, § 925(e) authorizes licensed importers (FFL type 08 or 11) to import surplus military rifles and shotguns classified as curios or relics; and handguns classified as curios or relics which meet the sporting criteria. In order to qualify for importation the firearms must be in their original military configuration and cannot have been sporterized. Further, under the AECA, the importation of U.S.-origin surplus military firearms is generally prohibited without retransfer authorization from the Department of State. 27 CFR § 447.57.


Lots and lots of laws restricting the importation of fire arms, and these fire arms in particular.

If you disagree with the law- and care- contact the legislators who were talking about changing the law.

 

Theres no reason for you to own a car either. The 2nd amendment gives us the right to bear arms, there is nothing in it for you to own a car.

Now, that being said go tell your monkey he's nearly universally hated.

 

Well said, and besides, whether anyone has a "reason" to own a car, or own a weapon, the constitutional fact of the matter is that it's NONE OF COMRADE OBAMA'S F-ING BUSINESS! Why is it that every one of these hyperlib, socialist clowns thinks that he has the right to re-write the Constitution?!

 

Freedom of choice....they hate it unless it involves murdering the innocent.

 

Liberals want to destroy history, as is the norm, and make certain that our history and heritage is not available to those that would like to preserve it. Nothing big if you don't mind that sort of thing...

 

I'm liberal.

 

Really?

I love history and my heritage. Why would I want to destroy it?

I think its great to preserve our great heritage- our national parks, our scenic rivers, the Constitution, personal freedoms.

I think you must be mistaking Liberals with someone else.

 

What are the specific measurable differences between a military rifle and a non-military rifle. Is a 30-06 Springfield a military rifle or a non-military rifle?

 

Whoa, did he say the M1 is a clip fed assault rifle?

The M1 is a clip fed battle rifle. An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge, such as the M16 or AK47. The M1 used a full sized rifle cartridge, not to mention is was only semi auto.

 

Already covered a dozen times in this thread. Go back to the book where you can only read about what you cannot have.

 

How about you don't tell me what to do?

 

Well I carried an M1 Grand for three years and have a M1 Carbine.

 

You're redundant postings mean nothing to those of us with the individual freedoms to own such tools.

 

Let me know how your internet censorship is going.

 

You tell me when and if it happens.

 

That's not true. Your country with it's gun culture attacked and tried to conquer America twice. That failed because of American smart military tactics. Your country even got outsmarted and defeated when it tried to conquer tribal spear throwing Zulus in south Africa at the Battle of Isandlwana in 1879. Tell me, how did England achieve colonialism if it didn't have a gun culture?

 

By having a ship culture.

 

Ships and troops with guns.

 

It would be nice to see this decision changed. M1s are 1.1k here on average. I'd like to see the price come down. My biggest question is are these remakes or did Korea just have an old stockpile they're trying to get rid of. If it's the former then I don't really care, but the later I'd put on a credit card without thinking twice. I've always had a thing for these rifles and would love to find a real one that works for a reasonable price.

 

That and 8 rounds, I mean why someone want that when they can easily get a weapon with 30 round magazines that reloads easier, not to mention is lighter and smaller. From what I hear if you shot off 5 rounds with the M1 and want to get another of those clips in it's a pain in the ass because the old one doesn't really want to come out. It's just a real stretch to call this thing an assault rifle. Simple because it was used in a war does not make it an assault rifle. By that definition old muskets would be assault rifles.

 

not to mention the clip makes a distinctive "CLING" noise when coming out (something the nazi`s would use as a sign to return fire, until American forces started hitting in 2`s. one guy fires, and when his clip pops out his buddy pops the germans that pop up )

 

No, these weapons are the real deal and over 50 years old. The South Koreans pride themselves in taking care of their weapons with constant maintenance. These would be a collectors dream to get their hands on them.

 

We sent them several hundred thousand after the Korean war. More than any other country I believe.
(Wikipedia has an actual list of countries we sent them to, and how many were sent to each).

 

The average Brit did not possess a firearm. The British military conquered most of the known world because they were a superior fighting force, firearms were a part of this and so where ancient Roman military tactics and superb discipline but the Brits did not and still do not have a gun culture.

 

Lol I remember hearing about that and thinking "man that's awesome!" Great way to turn a weakness around on the enemy. I have to admit that ping is one of the reasons I want one of these rifles. That and there's just something about WWII.