Obama Social Security Number To Become Issue In 2012 Race

I Think You Are Wong... rahl

 

which is a reflection of your thinking ability.

 

LOL. You're pathetic. You didn't even read what I posted. I asked for a citation that supports your reading of the 14th Amendment.

Why don't you just admit it's because he's black, and we can move on and end this charade?

 

So me an example of another "us citizen" who has a social security number from a state he wasn't born in or didn't apply for it from.
http://genealogy.about.com/od/social_security/a/numbers.htm

 

The Connecticut social security number the president is using will be a problem in the upcoming election.

 

I can do you one better - how about another U.S. President?

Eisenhower, born October 14, 1890, was living on his a farm in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania in 1962. So how did he get a California social-security number issued in 19621?

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/page/2/

The information is available on Ancestry.com.

 

Of course, Eisenhower was an usurper, too, right? Right after he kicked ass in WWII and basically was a key figure in saving humanity.

 

FIFY in the interest of completeness.

 

Well you know....Ike's birth certificate was rather suspicious issued as it was 50 years after his birth, attested to only by his brother, who was 3 years old when he was born...no doctors name, no hospital name....Birthers of course went bat crazy when they realized Ike was an ursurper too!

Oh wait- I forgot- Ike was white.

Never mind.

 

Maybe he applied for his Social Security Number while in California.
The number used to be for where you were born but was later changed to for where you applied from.

 

Good grief ... lots of people were born at home up until the end of WW2.

My father in law was born at home in either 1901 or 1902.. He was one of 8 and nobody could remember.

 

"Slyhunter So me an example of another "us citizen" who has a social security number from a state he wasn't born in or didn't apply for it from."

Maybe Obama applied for his Social Security number while in Conneticutt? I find it funny how quickly you are willing to consider a rationalization as to why Ike's SS# would be legitimate, but find any rationalization as to why Obama's as unlikely.

The funny thing is, if you apply Birther standards to Eisenhower, he would clearly be considered an ursurper.

Think about it- he never showed his long form birth certificate to anyone, the BC didn't show the doctor or name of the hospital, it was one of those questionable home births- and his social security number doesn't match his place of birth or residence....

He never provided his college transcripts or high school transcripts or kindergarten records.

All of the things Birthers think Obama is hiding....Ike didn't reveal either.

yet no one cared about Ike's eligiblity, or for that matter Bush's or Clinton's or Bush Sr's....see a pattern here?

 

Then this controversy would be over by Obama stating that. Since he hasn't stated it, it must not be true.

 

No one ever suspected them of being born overseas, or being adopted by a foreigner residing in another country... no one. Get it? See the pattern?

 

Eisenhower never stated that he applied from Calfornia either. Since he never stated it, it must not be true.....

I always love Birther logic.

It always ends in "we don't care if all of those other (white) Presidents were not eligible, we only care about Obama"

 

Oh I do....Birthers don't care about eligiblity for anyone except for Obama....never did, don't now.

Birthers assume everyone except Obama is eligible, without a stitch of evidence.

Birthers assume every piece of evidence showing Obama was born in the U.S. is fake.

Oh I certainly see the pattern.

Its black and white.

 

LOL... Are you intentionally arguing against yourself now?

We see the pattern just fine. If birthers would admit it, we could all just put the proper label on this and move on.

 

Maybe he did. See... even you can come up with good reasons why it is not the slightest bit strange that a person would have a SSN issued for a place he was not born and did not live.

This is not true. SSNs were never issued based on birthplace.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html

I am still waiting for somebody, anybody, to explain what nefarious purpose could be achieved using a Connecticut SSN with your real name that could not be achieved using one from Hawaii.

 

There is no controversy here, Sly.

There is merely a cottage industry of whining losers who still cant accept that they lost the election almost three years ago, and are still looking for some loophole, any loophole, to reverse a free and fair election by the American people.

The hand-wringing of a tiny community of Birthers and otherwise Obama deranged does not a controversy make.

 

Don't be silly. The deranged always "suspect" the president of something. The details may change, but there is never a shortage of hallucinatory accusations from the fringe all the way back to the beginning of the Republic.

George Washington was "suspected" of conspiring with the British during the Revolutionary War. John Adams was "suspected" of wanting to set up a monarchy with his son John Quincy as the heir apparent. New England clergy led a smear campaign against Jefferson in which they "suspected" him of conspiring to ban Christianity and terrorize its adherents. Franklin Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and John Kennedy were all "suspected" of staffing their administration with communist infiltrators. Warren Harding was "suspected" of being part black. Bill Clinton was "suspected" of murdering Vince Foster.

"Suspicion" means less than squat. Come up with some actual evidence for something and then you might finally lose the deserved label of fringe conspiracy kook.

 

Or, in the alternative, why we should believe that a conspiracy is effective enough to elect an ineligible, illegal, "Manchurian candidate" President, and yet is so incompetant they make a mistake in forging his records that anyone with a 3rd-grade reading level and access to the SSA website would quickly discover.

I believe we've both made the point that his "CT" SSN makes it LESS likely there's a conspiracy here, not more likely. A conspiracy gets the details right. A lazy government clerk typing numbers into a computer from a handwritten form does not.

 

Young Obama immigrated or moved with his mother to Indonesia - fact
Young Obama may have been adopted by Soetoro - maybe, maybe not
Young Obama is no more - stage left enter young Barry Soetoro.

Now, if he was legally adopted by Indonesian, and legally changed name from Barack to Barry, has he ever changed name back to Barack? And if not and he wanted to still be known as Barack, the need for the fake social security card becomes clear, right?

 

since none of the above has any relevance to his US citizenship, why would he need a fake SS#?

 

Young Obama lived in Indonesia for 4 years as a child- Fact
Birthers have no evidence that young Obama was ever adopted- Fact
American law for all practical purposes made it impossible for a child to renounce his citizenship- and his parents cannot do it on their behalf- Fact
Indonesian Law made it impossible to adopt a foriegn born child that was as old as Obama- claimed- but not disproven.

If Barack Obama had changed his name to Barry Soetoro in Indonesia- well probably would have had no legal standing in the United States. But lets say he did....so he could have just changed his name.

Fact: changing your legal name is simple and straight forward- and not illegal.
Fact: Social Security fraud is neither simple or straight forward and is illegal.

Why would anyone choose the hard illegal route to accomplish what could easily be done legally?

Oh well a Birther might....

So exactly what would the purpose of a fake social security number filed in CT be, when he could just request a SS# in Hawaii?

 

So let me get this right. Your contention is that he went through all the trouble (as a teenager) to break the law and get a fake SSN.... because he wanted to do something that is otherwise perfectly legal (change his name)?

You really don't think very hard about these things, do you?