Obamacare Logistical Apocalypse Nowhere To Be Seen Yet

You didn't lie, you just said something that wasn't true in order to make a point.....
And I am not going to waste my time watching a video, in which I am sure I will discover that the "top guy on terrorism" actually did not promise that there would be no civilian casualties from drone strikes.
Because it wouldn't change anything, you just post more links and claim they said something they didn't.....

 

An act if a lazy person. You asked for facts. When presented with them you turn tell. Whatever suit yourself. The proof is right there. If you care not to watch a video cause it's too much work for a left winger than read the your left wing NY Times page stating the exact same thing. Surely you aren't telling the left winged NY Times are lying?
Here is again so you don't have to work too hard http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/12/world/asia/12drones.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

Yes, the number is from the administration, 93 million policies will lose their grandfathered status.
The lie is that these policies will be canceled, that's the part the right wing added.
That's the part I see clueless morons trumpeting, that 80 million people are going to lose their coverage......

You've been PWNED by your own people, again and again, wake up

 

Here are other sources Quoting the Obama White House:

YAHOO
Obama Officials In 2010: 93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare

TWITCHY
Bombshell: Obama officials said more than half of employer-sponsored health plans will be canceled

USA TODAY
Report: W.H. knew plans would be canceled under ACA

Just because CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS refuse to report news that destroys all credibility of Barack Obama does not mean it did not happen. This is White House record and Forbes has not been proven wrong in its reporting of this enormous White House destruction and knowledge of how many Americans would lose their plans.

I guess we just had to pass it to see what was in it.

Leftists don't care how destructive and horrible a lie is as long as it furthers their Authoritarian Socialist goals.

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Their policies are being cancelled. That's what it means. You are the only person owned here and it's hilarious to watch you refuse to acknowledge reality.

 

You are correct Riot. Goober does not care for the facts or truth or direct quotes from the Obama Administration. He cares for left wing propaganda only and if it is not what he receives he goes into denial mode. It is weird to watch these Liberals embrace propaganda and left wing ideology in a "cult like" manner.

 

Lol. I'm still waiting for a left to tell me why it's ok that the unions don't want to help sick poor people? They cried to avoid a fee to help the poor and sick and obama let them get out of the law. Is this some kind of political pay back? You donate to Obama and you get huge favors to help you get out of helping the poor sick people? Still waiting on the left to answer that one.

 

He is a question a smart person such as you should be able to answer. Why is it ok for the union to avoid doing their fair share and pay their taxes like the law states. Do they not care about the sick and the poor. That's were the money was going. Why do they get an exemption from helping. Do they not care? Why do they get this Obushma's free pass? Is it cause they are donors to the Obama champaign maybe? Please enlighten me.

 

LOL, you guys have been PWNED again, do you ever get tired of being used?
http://billmoyers.com/2013/10/31/how-a-wildly-misleading-obamacare-horror-story-is-born/

It's just a case of a "sharp guy" named Avik Roy, with an agenda, adding a few of his own words to change the meaning of what he is presenting, to an audience not noted for critical thinking.
He used you ......

 

I am trying to enlighten you, but you have to be willing to be enlightened...
I am pointing out the things you believe that are false.
but you have to pick up the ball and run with it, I can't do it for you.

 

No you have not. Not a one. You felled to answer any of my questions. I just sent you one please go ahead I'm waiting.you even quoted it and still avoided

 

Waiting! Are do you have to refer to your leftist talking point guide?

 

This hints at the very core of the matter; but it does so, well, a bit deceptively. More to the point: Although I oppose the concept of universal healthcare, that is not what ObamaCare is. The CBO estimates that even several years from now, with ObamaCare in full effect, there will remain some 30 million--yes, 30 million!--uninsured Americans.

A proponent of UHC may certainly advance the assertion that a single-payer system, available to all Americans, is the best way to go; as regarding which, we may have a reasoned debate. But surely no one supposes that ObamaCare is the best of all possible healthcare systems. That is simply preposterous. (Oh, and ObamaCare emphatically does not represent some sort of compromise between UHC and the status quo ante. It is far worse than either of these alternatives, in my opinion.)

So let the intellectually honest leftists propose universal healthcare, in its European or Canadian incarnations. We can have an honest debate. But there is nothing intellectually honest about the insistence that ObamaCare is a simply wonderful idea...

 

What is true about ObamaCare is that it was the best thing that was politically feasible at the moment when the opportunity was there to get something on the books.
Sure, Single payer would be better, and someday we'll get there, but the way the political system works doesn't allow for things that big to happen all at once.

 

This (tacitly, at least) perpetuates the fallacy that ObamaCare represented a compromise between the two healthcare systems--single payer and the status quo ante--whereas nothing could possibly be further from the truth.

Let us both stipulate that from a conservative, Republican standpoint--even from a Tea Party standpoint--single payer (though far from optimal) would be vastly preferable to ObamaCare. Not even a close call.

May we agree upon that, at least?

 

With a question like that as an example? Apparently most of the last five years.

 

You are rally oblivious to the reprocussions of ratio of Medicaid to paying customers being heavily skewed towards Medicaid sign ups?

 

Why do liberals post these threads about Obama care just to suffer 10 pages plus of facts that just makes them out to be ideologue sycophant Obama Kool-Aid drunk fools

 

No, ObamaCare is not a compromise between the two, it's a scheme, developed by a conservative think tank, supported by Newt Gingrich, as an alternative to single payer which conservatives hate, because single payer creates a large government entity, or expands one called Medicare.
It is a way to keep private insurance companies in the mix, because politically, insurance companies killed HillaryCare with a huge advertising effort.
ObamaCare was the best thing that was politically feasible.
From a cost perspective, the most efficient system is pure government run health care, health workers on a government salary, working at government clinics, like the National Health in Britain or the VA in the US, this is the least expensive way to deliver health care. The second least expensive way is single payer, like Canadian Medicare or US Medicare, and the third most expensive way to deliver health care is the individual mandate, employer mandate schemes, and the most expensive and unsustainable way was what we had before ObamaCare.
So ObamaCare is a big improvement over what we had, but it's not the best possible system, it was the best politically feasible system at the time.

 

Why do you think that opposition to ObamaCare is fact based?
If it is, why is it that conservatives depend on lies to argue against it?
Why don't they use real facts?

 

next you will try to tell me Obama didn't lie

 

There have been numerous links posted to real Americans telling about their actual experiences with Obamacare. I've yet to see you post a single link to back up your position.

Got anything, or do all your sources lead back to barackobama.com?

 

No, I'm telling you that you have been lied to, obvious lies aimed at people who are ignorant about health insurance.
Like the lie that 80 million people are going to lose their insurance.
There is no truth to that.
You knew that right, you weren't fooled by that, right?

 

Who shall we believe... Obama's bootlickers, or real Americans?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...d-health-insurance-for-herself-and-young-son/

 

Anecdotes, not data.
Designed to manipulate weak minds.
Why do you think that so many of the things you firmly believed turned out to be lies?
WMDs, Obama's Kenyan Birth, HyperInflation around the corner, Romney Landslide, Obama Impeached over (fill in the blank)

Here's reality, the individual mandate works every where it's been tried, it's sound, and it's working now.
Despite every little anecdote that has been thrust at you, why do you think they lie about the real numbers?
Did they fool you with that thing about 80 million losing their insurance?