Obamacare Logistical Apocalypse Nowhere To Be Seen Yet

Organizations supporting ACA are offering millions of dollars for success stories. Surely you can find ONE link to back up your position.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...d-health-insurance-for-herself-and-young-son/

 

you just showed your Mod edit..flounder again
do you want to know where the 80 million figure came from? it came from the very administration you are foolishly trying to defend and by they way it isn't 80 million it is 93 million

Obama Officials In 2010: 93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare

“The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013,” wrote the administration on page 34,552 of the Register. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and become illegal. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americans—more than half the population—was covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...e-to-keep-their-health-plans-under-obamacare/

 

Yea, who cares? Who cares that we have O'care in large part because they claimed the 40/50 million of uninsured American's would have "affordable" HC and now they are patting themselves on the back because of 2mil they claim are being covered. Yea, who cares, right?

 

And to quote Hillary, "What difference does it make?"

After all, its just American families who are suffering, not Barack or Michelle.

What difference does it make?

 

It's quite amazing to witness Left Wing Cultists ignore information directly from the White House and other sources, yet they are willing to repeatedly spout off propaganda from "Progressive" sources that have no basis except the opinion of some left wing loon will to lie to them so that they can feel comfort in their new religion of Authoritarian Socialism.

93 Million is the number the White House came up with. That is how many people will lose their current health care plans. That number is likely LOW.

Everyone in my company will lose their current plans come Dec. 2014. We beat the law by 1 month to extend this loss for as long as possible. This is a real event with real people that are upset with what they know is coming. I have left leaning people at my office pissed off and the centrists and right leaners are out of their mind mad. There are thousands of other companies just like mine with similar losses coming to their employees. These will be spread from Jan 2014 through Dec 2014. Each month a new wave of people will lose their coverage and be forced to follow the Democrats Authoritarian Law or face IRS fines. Those are pure facts.

 

This is just one, in a long line of ridiculous doomsday predictions from the right that never had a semblance of reality. While the ACA has its issues, the doomsday prediction is a joke.

 

The best health care system on this planet is being destroyed in the name of progressivism. The idea that people should produce their own welfare is being destroyed and replaced with lifelong enslavement to the federal government. Our financial sector is being destroyed with $85B per month of fake money from the fed.

It is way too early to see how badly obama-care is going to hurt our country. Killing a couple of the big insurance companies; - you do know that obama-care forces people to buy a product from the insurance companies that the liberal horde hates - companies that do more than sell health insurance, would be very bad for the whole financial community.

 

I don't need to link to success stories, I live in a place where we have had the exact same system for 6 years, it works, people like it....
Have you ever lived in a place with the individual mandate where it didn't work?
Or maybe do you have a story that isn't, "I got a broken link on the internet, this is how freedom ends"

 

Right, I already pointed out that the Forbes article was a lie, sure 93 million policies will lose grandfathered status, you just don't know what that means, and the writer purposely mislead you, the writer added his own words "and will be canceled"
In reality, "and will be adjusted" would be a lot more accurate, but that wouldn't be as effective in moving the opinions of sheep, would it?

 

Way to change the subject.

IOW, youve got nothing but rhetoric from OFA but we're supposed to believe you because... they wouldnt lie to us.

How gullible can one get.

https://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/63885-7-reasons-obamacare-is-an-epic-disaster/

 

so you are resorting on a play on words When a policy becomes illegal that policy there for has to be cancelled there is no debate. your argument did work on the private health insurance market and it wont work with the employer offered insurance market
those employers have two choices. either offer a more expensive policy that meets the ridicules standards like having to force single males and post menopause females to be covered for maternity care or drop offering insurance all together which most will do because of the cost. its cheaper to pay the fine

 

Incorrect. I also cited USA Today, Yahoo News, and other sources. I am sorry you don't like the facts of the situation, but you are not entitled to your own personal facts.

The White House estimated 93 Million People will lose their current plans. <--- Sourced Fact

 

Not to worry. I am very correct. The 93 million was a hijack of twisted information that Forbes bombarded the internet with, to make the sheep move in the direction of Forbes propaganda.

 

To assert that ObamaCare was "the best politically feasible system at the time" is necessarily to imply that conservatives detest single-payer more than we detest ObamaCare; and that is simply inaccurate.

I am not in favor of a single-payer system--let there be no doubt about that--but I would consider even single payer a substantial improvement over ObamaCare. And so, I believe, would most other conservatives (including both establishment conservatives and Tea Party types).

Would you disagree with that?

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/nov/25/business/la-fi-mh-obamacare-success-20131125

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...bamacare-already-making-a-difference-20131016

Being in denial about something successful doesn't always play out well for those who continue to be sour and feed off negative propaganda.

 

Very good. 4 people in CA who are receiving subsidies.

Must've taken you hrs to find those. I know I'm convinced now. Obamacare is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Just ask one of those folks from CA.

 

Go to comments under the very first pic... the one with over 3000 entries. From the horses' mouths.

https://m.facebook.com/Healthcare.g...://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php&_rdr

 

So far, "adjusted" has been revealed to mean less choice and less value.

 

Excellent question from healthcare.gov...

"Dec 31 at 5:37pm
Andy Doyle
Does a bronze plan cover treatment for injuries incurred while embracing the suck? or would you recommend silver?"

 

For a living, I produce timelines, action plans and complete cost analysis for quite large and complicated projects in the mfg world. It takes an immense amount of work to compile every net costs that affects the bottom line NPV or a project. I have yet to see an actual study including every costs for a single federal payer or a private health care system. Do you know of one to support your assetion? Please try to cite something not dripping with bias.

 

You asked for links to success. Glad I could help.

 

I thanked you for your time and invited you to read real comments from real Americans. Just wondering if you checked it out or turned a blind eye because its so negative?

https://m.facebook.com/Healthcare.g...://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php&_rdr