Obama's ATF Used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations

most people dont consider reporting large volume gun sales as an assault on the 2nd.

 

Source of your allegation?

 

Operation Fast and Furious....

 

So you think this was a "rogue" action of the ATF?

 

Gee, what a surprise there.

 

I'm not saying anything other then a valid source for his allegations. Your response was way too broad. I want to hear specifics.

 

Ayuh,... It's right outa the Liberal Progressive's playbook...

Rule #1,... Never let a crisis go Unexploited...
Rule #2,... Without a current crisis,... Manufacture 1....

 

Bingo. Thank you for the above link. Of note is another paragraph in that article:

Right there. In 2009. Hillary Clinton. Before Fast and Furious was exposed. Using the existence of those exact weapons, in Mexico, having come from American gun dealers. It wasn't just a plan to make the case for gun control over these weapons, but they had already started the political posturing to get it done.

The Press won't touch the above.

 

RP12 found links. But this is exactly part of it. There were others below Hillary, and other leftwad politicians, using Hillary's launch into gun smuggling to start their saber-rattling for gun control in 2009.

And then, when FF hit the fan, they dropped this engineered rhetoric and the engineered tragedy, like a hot potato.

It is the Obama Administration's motive for letting FF go. It was all part of the orchestration. Trying to create the basis for a political issue to advocate for more gun control. Its the "smoking gun"

 

Ayuh,.... I dare ya to bring this down to the "Gun Control" forum,...

Danct, 'n his mistress Riever will explain this just isn't the case, at All...

 

For those defending Owebama and his administration, instead of demanding proof that F&F was illegal, perhaps you could show us where it was....

You see, the way I understand it the ATF was buying weapons in mass quantities to sell to criminals in Mexico so that they would all kill each other.

Some other questions

One: Where did the money come from and who authorized it? We're not talking a few grand here....

Two: Who knew? We know Holder did, he has admitted it.

Three: Holder lied to congress. He should resign.

 

This is exactly what we are talking about. ABC News runs with this story that is pure left wing manufactured propaganda with the goal to attack 2nd Amendment Rights. This was designed and executed by the Obama Administration.

Rep Given!

 

"Documents obtained by CBS News show that officials discussed using dealers' sales, including those encouraged by the ATF to justify a new gun regulation called "Demand Letter 3." That would require some U.S. gun shops to report the sale of multiple rifles or "long guns." Demand Letter 3 was so named because it would be the third ATF program demanding gun dealers report tracing information.

"There's plenty of evidence showing that this administration planned to use the tragedies of Fast and Furious as rationale to further their goals of a long gun reporting requirement. But, we've learned from our investigation that reporting multiple long gun sales would do nothing to stop the flow of firearms to known straw purchasers because many Federal Firearms Dealers are already voluntarily reporting suspicious transactions. It's pretty clear that the problem isn't lack of burdensome reporting requirements," Grassley said."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57339294/holder-gun-walking-tactic-unacceptable/

Game. Set. Match.

 

why is that such a problem?

 

"There's plenty of evidence showing that this administration planned to use the tragedies of Fast and Furious as rationale to further their goals of a long gun reporting requirement."

"Lose" guns to criminals and then use that to pass more gun laws.. Its as plain as day.

 

What is plain as day to a reasonable honest person is lost in the night to a liberal mind. Don't expect them to admit the truth.

 

if youre claiming cimrinals werent already buying these guns to begin with you might have a case...

 

Obama wanted to prove that guns were bad, and in the act, had border agents killed.

Obama has blood on his hands.

Obama should go to jail.

 

lol isnt he already in jail for Sestakgate? or Rezko?

didnt Blago turn on him yet?

latest in a long line of righties crying wolf

 

So because criminals have guns its ok for the Government to arm the criminals and then use that to pass more gun laws.

Logic.. Try it sometime. Just admit it. The Obama Admin (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up.. Admit it you will feel better.

 

So, according to you, the "lack of gun controls CAUSED killings", so Obama is "guilty of murder", and Obama is also guilty of discussing the idea that "lack of gun control causes murder".

Roger,10-4!

 

Simple question for you.

If a criminal act is done by a gun you owned and sold what happens to you....

 

For the learning impaired out there:

March 2009: US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Mexico City .... "Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the deaths of police officers, soldiers and civilians. I feel very strongly we have a co-responsibility."


March 2009; US Attorney General Eric Holder presiding over plan that is smuggling weapons to criminals in Mexico.

2009-2010-2011: US Agents, and many other innocents, killed with said guns.

 

I don;t think Obama is criminally responsible for the death of the border agent but someone in the Justice Department is.

As the AG if Holder can't find a fall guy to take the blame for him then he needs to explain it all to a special prosecutor.

 

Well, according to the NRA, I should have sold TWO guns!