One Last Accused Nazi—in Queens

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  1. Kiwi33

    Kiwi33 New Member

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    Like that tell only the blind. you didn't see murder by the Ukrainian nationalists in Odessa? As nationalists - nazis pressed the peace police officers by bulldozer, beat them by chains... How beat Crimeans in the buses... etc
     
  2. Jazz

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    O.k., I had to first read up on WWII to find out why the Germans did these evil deeds. It was never their intention! Italy was occupying Greece and consequently thrown out. So the Germans had to sidetrack and delay their march to Moscow.
    Then the Greeks split into two rebel groups fighting each other AND the Germans. Destroying bridges and buildings and roads to cause the Germans to make long detours. Briton put up a blockade and no food could get to the starving people. It was a holy mess.
    Yes, in the end the Germans simply shot just about anybody as they could not tell who was a rebel and who not. The population supported the one or other rebel group.
    Here is the link I used:
    http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/worldwarII.htm

    Germany DID pay some reparation for damage during WWII:

    In 1960, Greece accepted 115 million Marks from West Germany. Past Greek governments have insisted that this was only a down-payment, not complete reparations. In 1990, immediately prior to German reunification, West Germany and East Germany signed the Two Plus Four Agreement with the former Allied countries of the United States, Great Britain, France, and the Soviet Union. Since that time, Germany has unilaterally insisted that all matters concerning World War II, including further reparations to Greece, are closed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reparations_for_World_War_II

    BUT...
    Germany is the biggest single contributing nation to Greece's bailouts, which have kept the country afloat since 2010 and saved it from bankruptcy.
    Germany has extended to Athens at least 15bn euros of bilateral rescue loans as part of the bailout.
    Read here:
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europ...s-more-support-greece-201441118434366152.html

    Everything considered, I think Germany has done enough. Why don't Briton and Italy also pay? They, too, were part of the Greeks misery. Bulgaria has paid its dues!!

    Why Israel still gets payments and goods is a different matter.
     
  3. Thunderbolt

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    The testimonies of Holocaust survivors !
     
  4. Thunderbolt

    Thunderbolt Active Member

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    He was a guard in Trawniki and Treblinka !
    Is it for you not proof enough ?
     
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    Yes, and what you said earlier about him not admitting to being a guard - apparently the problem came because of a new law introduced in the US which allowed for the citizenship of people who had not admitted being guards when they were given it to be revoked

    http://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/Pre_96/August94/osi.txt.html

    This has led to a lot of late trials

    http://www.deathcamps.org/occupation/trawnikitrials.html

    Now if we go to this particular individual again. According to the International Business Times

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/former-nazi-concentration-camp-guard-jakiw-palij-521297

    If the above is true then what is now being said is that if you find yourself in such a situation you must be prepared to commit suicide and have all your family killed or you are a war criminal. Do we apply these same standards in other situations? I do not think so.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely not, it is disgusting if this guy has been treated like this for doing nothing but serve, if there is evidence that he committed a war crime fair enough, but being a guard at Treblinka does not make you a war criminal.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it is quite clear from Thunderbolts opinion that this is about revenge not justice. Either that or it is about money and Finkelstein accurately described it as the Holocaust Industry.
     
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    We could have burned Germany to the ground and not allowed a living thing to leave. I think our actions were prudent.
     
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    What you say is not only false but Odesa is not the topic in this thread. It is about a guy from Poland who is accused of helping or working with Nazi Germaniacs. Try to stay on topic.
     
  10. JakeJ

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    What is the OP talking about of "last Nazi?" Soros, the largest Democrat supporter, was a Nazi collaborator. Nazi-collaborator = Nazi.

    [video=youtube;c1Qr7TnWG74]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Qr7TnWG74[/video]
     
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    None the less,.. massacring civilians is what the Allied did on purpose with their firebombing campaign. But that was alright. And when Assad does that, than it's wrong. When the nazi's killed civilians, than it was wrong as well.
     
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    Yes a 16 year old Polish kid at the start of the war was behind the death of millions of Jews... Millions in tax payer money wasted to deport one 92 year old man. He has to go before god and atone for the things he did forced or unforced. There is no escaping that justice.
     
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    "You guys burnt the place down, turned it into a single column of flame. More people died there in the firestorm, in that one big flame, than died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined." --Kurt Vonnegut, Jr




    As long as the victors write the history few people will really know the entire truth of WW 2's true War Criminals or scope of innocent victims everywhere.

    Thank you for pointing out what I believe when reading accounts or hearing what is touted as "History" from the various sources in which it is presented:

    "No single Nationality, Ethnic Group, Religion etc is exclusively any better, worse or more victimized than another."

    WW 2 with all its trappings is only unique in that it remains possibly the most heavily propagandized event presented after over 7 decades with the Germans the most effectively & fraudulently demonized population participating in the bloodbath that continues to mesmerize so many.

    Perhaps that's why so few know why the incineration of Dresden's residents, refugees, P.O.Ws (on all sides) hospital patients rates so high among War Crimes along with Eisenhower's heavily censored "Holocaust"

    “Eisenhower’s Holocaust: His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million(*)Germans!”
    https://socioecohistory.wordpress.c...locaust-his-slaughter-of-1-7-million-germans/

    Firstly, Dresden was among the mutually agreed "Free City". Like Oxford was agreed by the Germans to be Off-Limits as a target, the Allies violated their side of the agreement by the burning alive of Dresden's occupants. Dresden had no military value, anti-aircraft defenses just as the war was virtually over by February, 1945.

    Dresden's population at the time of the bombing was hugely inflated by refugees fleeing the Soviets, P.O.W.s of all sides seeking a safe recovery in temporary & permanent hospitals.

    The tactic put forward by mission leader "Bomber" Harris who was later known as "Butcher" Harris by his own men, was to make two attacks to maximize civilian casualties.

    Generally, after a city was bombed, those huddled in bomb shelters waited for an "All Clear" signal to begin rescue operations etc. "Bomber" / "Butcher" Harris chose to make a 2nd bombing run after the "All Clear" signal to slaughter Red Cross personnel, Fire Fighters, & civilian rescuers.

    EXCERPT "The Allies knew that a bomb shelter or a cellar would only provide protection for about three hours before becoming unbearably hot and so forcing the civilians back outside.

    Thus a second wave of bombs was dropped precisely three hours after the first batch – again to maximise the number of casualties. Many bombs were adapted so that they would explode hours after falling – the idea to cause maximum casualties against civilians who were trying to remove the devices.[1]"CONTINUED


    There are ample grisly details describing the unique intensity of the incineration that make this War Crime unique among War Crimes.

    I doubt that more than a handful of Americans know the unique extent of premeditated criminality behind the incineration of Dresden's enormous & defenseless population or the fact that a German military (Luftwaffe) base only 7 km away was untouched. The Victors were only intent on burning civilians, POWs, the wounded & refugees that night.

    Don't expect a star- studded movie anytime soon named " Band of Bombers"


    Thanks





    [1]“Bombing of Dresden in World War II”
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
     
  14. starcitizen

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    And the storm front (*)(*)(*)(*)***** come out of the woodwork to spread their revisionist fascist propaganda, Dresden was a legitimate target as it was an industrial, communications, and rail center fueling the Nazi war machine and the casualties were appx. 25 thousand not the 200 thousand proposed by the Nazi government, the Nazis were the first to bomb cities and they did not restrict their campaign to industrial centers (see terror bombing of Warsaw) and Plan Dalet was not ethnic cleansing try actually reading the plan which is freely available to anyone who actually cares about facts and not Jew hating Nazi and Islamo-Nazi propaganda.
     
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    Aww look who can c/p from the Neo-Nazi metapedia website.

    Metapedia is an electronic encyclopedia which states that it focuses on European culture, art, science, philosophy and politics. It contains far-right, white nationalist, white supremacist, white separatist, antisemitic, and neo-Nazi[2] points of view.[3][4][5] It was officially launched on 26 October 2006 with the Swedish-language edition.[6][7] The English section was launched on 28 April 2007.[6][8] The Hungarian version has the most articles: 144,189 as of 27 September 2013.[9]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metapedia
     
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    Not only harboring Nazis, but giving them rank and privilege. Werner von Braun became the head of the American rocket program despite being a member of the German Nazi Party and the SS. The Nazi rocket program killed many Jews through slave labor. The Russians were doing it so why shouldn't we? We were doing it so why shouldn't the Russians? It's a though all the top-notch engineering schools in the U.S. and Soviet Union couldn't combine for an original thought. Only Nazis could do it.
     
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    Stop saying "we" and the only Nazis in the Ukraine speak Russian.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And, look who can c/p from the playground of Zionist Hasbara Trolls

    “Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups”
    http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/08/wikipedia-editing-courses-launched-by.html
    EXCERPT “Two Israeli groups have set up 'Zionist editing' courses with aims to alter perceptions about Israel.

    Yesha Council, representing the Jewish settler movement, and the rightwing Israel Sheli (My I srael) movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and revise some of the most hotly disputed pages of the online reference site.”CONTINUED


    Of the sources I cited only 1 was from the bane of Zionist Hasbarats: "Metapedia"

    What about the material in that excerpt was "neo-nazi, anti Semitic, or "white supremacist etc"?

    The victims of the Dresden massacre were from many Religions, including Jews, many Ethnic Groups & many nationalities.

    If you're unable to contribute anything of substance, take your mindless, sarcastic slurs elsewhere
     
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    You're doing nothing but quoting Nazi pigs you're laughable.
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    LOL wikipedia is the most respected open source website on the planet and studies have proven that it is as accurate as any other encyclopedia but hey you just posted from a Neo Nazi blog whose homepage quotes the long proven anti-Semitic forgery "protocols of the elders of zion, touche. Take your Nazi bull(*)(*)(*)(*) back to stormfront.

    Oh look folks he only posted propaganda from one overtly Neo-Nazi website. What a joke.
    But FYI every source you posted has been an overtly anti-Semitic Neo Nazi conspiracy website, on "socioehistory," we learn of the coming Jewish Bolshevik revolution, on metapedia we can learn how the holocaust was a hoax and Hitler was just a swell guy, and your most recent Nazi blog opens with quotes from the protocols of the elders of Zion a long debunked anti-Semitic forgery extensively used as propaganda by the Third Reich and Neo Nazis everywhere.
    It was classic revisionist Neo-Nazi blame the victim propaganda.

    I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what Nazi pigs have to say, take your Nazi propaganda back to stormfront.
     

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