One Last Accused Nazi—in Queens

One of the reasons I settled in Europe (Munich & Freiburg in Alsace-Lorraine) after spending time wandering through the Mid East Islamic world was to get away from the "Baby Killer" stigma after being discharged from an Army Airborne unit & military service in Laos (c. 1971).

I imagine that there were many S.E. Asians who felt that "All Americans had blood on their hands"

I'm afraid that too many people think of WW 2 Germany without considering the timeline leading up to WW 2, the effect of The Treaty of Versailles & the decades of vengeful abuse by the Allies ( esp. France), humiliation, & misery the German people endured thereafter. Very few people know of the extent of those years of misery, starvation, disease & plunder etc prevalent during the Weimar era.

Germany only entered WW 1 because it was honoring its treaty commitments, not because of any lucrative motive and became the scapegoat of that draconian Treaty of Versailles & the manifold abuses & extortion that occurred afterward. The Treaty of Versailles & those subsequent abuses were what made Hitler's rise possible & less would have done the same in any country.

Post WW 2 conditions were little better & possibly worse.


In this time when you can get locked up, fined, persecuted & worse for expressing unpopular realities, please realize that there is little motive in doing so.

I hope you'll consider reading "An Eye for an Eye" for another heavily repressed account of the truly torturous events in Zionist run concentration camps set up in E. Germany:

“An Eye for an Eye” (Review)
http://www.amazon.com/An-Eye-Sought-Revenge-Holocaust/dp/0967569109
EXCERPT OF REVIEW: It became a best-seller in Europe but was so shunned in America that it also became, in the words of New York Magazine, "The Book They Dare Not Review."CONTINUED


& Eisenhower's mass murder:

“Eisenhower’s Holocaust: His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million(*)Germans!"
https://socioecohistory.wordpress.c...locaust-his-slaughter-of-1-7-million-germans/

AND


“12 Things You Were Not Told About Adolph Hitler and Nazi Germany”
http://www.endalldisease.com/12-things-you-were-never-told-about-hitler-and-nazi-germany/

. . . . . . . . . .

After what I've seen, heard & experienced in Laos, throughout the Islamic Mid East & in W. Germany, I've found that very few people are interested in hearing the truth but are far more comfortable with reassuring & familiar deceptions.


Thanks

 

Thanks for yet another example of the World's most egregious extortion racket.
The Treaty of Versailles & its subsequent atrocities, plunder & torment wasn't bad enough

Meanwhile:


“Eisenhower’s Holocaust: His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million(*)Germans!”
https://socioecohistory.wordpress.c...locaust-his-slaughter-of-1-7-million-germans/



AND:


“An Eye for an Eye” (Review)
http://www.amazon.com/An-Eye-Sought-Revenge-Holocaust/dp/0967569109
EXCERPT OF REVIEW: It became a best-seller in Europe but was so shunned in America that it also became, in the words of New York Magazine, "The Book They Dare Not Review."

Since then, both 60 Minutes and The New York Times have corroborated what Sack wrote: that at the end of World War II, thousands of Jews sought revenge for the Holocaust. They set up 1,255 concentration camps for German civilians -- German men, women, children and babies. There they beat, whipped, tortured and murdered the Germans.”CONTINUED

Additionally, almost every German female between 6 & 90 was raped by Allied "Liberators" (primarily by the Russians)


Thanks again for the info
Somebody call Stevie Spielberg......Quick!

 

She's rotting.

Why do you ask?

 

And might I also add that with the US breaching international law these days and their past support for ISIS etc., there seem to me to be a fair number of Americans who are de facto collaborating with the radical US agenda who are driving the US perpetual war machine to ensure a "New American Century". Perhaps one day they'll be a day of reckoning for them too?

 

I'm not anti-war but at the same time some people are but that doesn't mean just because they go to fight and do their duties means they are pro-war or even agree with the war...

Not every German soldier during WWII was a "Nazi"....

Indeed, sometimes you have to follow orders unless it's treason (which is why we have a Bill of Rights) which is why I can go either way on the Civil War... That was one big ball of treason....

I have a 50 page thesis on that on a pdf I would love to upload one day on a computer that died... I actually have about 150 pages but I had to cut it down.

 

Yes, the Rheinwiesen!!

Eisenhower decreed:“Prison enclosures are to provide no shelter or other comforts.”
They vegetated in the rain, wind and mud with no food for six weeks!

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/eisenhowers-death-camps/

http://abundanthope.net/artman2/uploads/1/Other_Losses_4.pdf

And now the German soldiers fight for America wherever needed!!

 

and this of course is true. I had heard of the treatment of Germans after WW2 on the net but was very surprised when the BBC did a documentary on it last year - as were they! I had thought to speak of it was taboo. Unfortunately the documentary is no longer available for view but here is what they say as an intro

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05x30lb

Here is the video from youtube. I am not sure it is the one I was thinking about. That one certainly included camps where they were starved. Anyway here it is. I will go and watch it again myself now - would have before I posted here if I had thought to try Youtube!

[video=youtube;VqfmbLWAM8s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqfmbLWAM8s[/video]

 

No my mistake. That is not the documentary I was thinking about. This one seems to be about the killing and other ill treatment of ethnic Germans in Eastern Europe post ww2. The one I was thinking about was one also I think done by the BBC though possibly another channel, which explored the camps Germans were kept in where they starved to death and questioned how this could happen. I cannot find it. Haven't found the right search term yet or there are just too many in competition.

 

Oh God... what a gruesome video! I have read about these things before, but never actually seen the old people talking about it.
But what I can't believe is, that BBC has to sneak in the lampshade and other "souvenirs". THAT has long been proven untrue and fabricated... like a lot of other tales.
Most Germans don't feel they were "liberated" by the allies. Liberated of their last bit they had, that is true! Hitler was very much liked by his people. Here is a forbidden story: "The Greatest Story Never Told". Just scroll down a bit:

http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/

 

That was shown in your above video, albeit just a short clip.

 

Indeed. Huge numbers of them were very cynical about the Nazis.

I rather suspect that today the pressure and bullying tactics that are applied means that even if an order is unlawful/illegal, most serving soldiers will feel pressured into obeying it anyway. And that, of course, opens the door to the principals applied by the Nuremberg tribunal.

Besides this, I'm sorry to say that your Bill of Rights is shredded and in tatters today. It has been persistently weakened and ignored over the years and now has simply been superseded by COG. The concept of law fled.

 

Were your parents non-Jewish concentration camp prisoners ?
I don't suspect or accuse them of anything !

But it is true that a few Nazi collaborators later fell out of love with their German masters and ended in prisons or even in concentration camps.
Remember the Hungarian Fascist dictator Miklós Horthy.
Again, I do NOT refer to your parents.

 

I know! I was surprised at that as well.

Well I think that believing that was the reason for the collective punishment of the Germans which as the video shows apart from the Gas Chambers, in Eastern Europe, very much mimics the worst treatment of the Nazi's to those they despised but how much the majority had to do with the war crimes is another thing.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...axis-soldiers-at-the-end-of-ww2-10216869.html

My dad drove an ambulance and said apart from a direct hit he was fine. He just had to hold up his card - I think it was red cross card but he was with the British army not the red cross. Given that it was Rommel in charge of whom they were fighting it is not surprising that the enemy where he was went strictly by the rules of war, so it definitely was not all Germans.


I still cannot find the other video. The American camps for Germans, although a cruel and disgusting way to treat human beings appear to have only been in existence from April to September and the number of deaths probably just in the lower tens of thousands. I think the Germans then suffered forced labour and all of Europe was on the verge of starvation

As to how much the general population really loved Hitler, well he was very charismatic but I think by the end of the war most had lost any admiration - which does not mean that for a long time after they did not resent how they had been treated and especially those from Eastern Europe had every reason to do so.

I was born a few years after the war ended and was brought up to hate Germans. Not that my parents told me to hate them but everything I heard about them was hateful. In the 70's I met this very nice German man. I was hoping he would tell me that my feelings were unjustified but instead he told me that Germans had not changed at all, they were just as bad as they always had been. I mentioned this on a forum to a German and he explained that for a long time people were still nurturing pro nazi feelings, resentment for how they had been treated after the war and a refusal to acknowledge what had happened and it was their children, the generation born after the war who in the 70's made them address this and change.

On the video re the Jew mentioned in charge of the camp in Poland, Poland tried to get him extradited from Israel in 2005 for crimes against humanity.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...nts-Jew-86-over-revenge-killing-of-Nazis.html

Unlike the current one who may well have been under duress and who in any case was a small fry, this man was in charge and engaging in the utmost of brutality.
Now his family had been exterminated by the Nazis so maybe he lost his marbles but possibly it is time to end this rather than bringing to trial people who could have been brought to trial decades ago if it was thought they were guilty of war crimes as the one I spoke of earlier or perhaps we need to get all those guilty of war crimes in WW2 in court, not just the Nazis.

While I appreciate it was horrendous, not all people who suffered in this way continued their lives with hatred. I am thinking at the moment of a humanistic psychologist whose name currently escapes me. A bit like Jack Kornfield's reaction to the Cambodian Killing Fields. He gathered people together and they chanted again and again.

http://chronicmeditator.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/hatred-never-ceases-by-hatred.html

Something sadly we still seem a long way off understanding.

 

I cannot find what it is this guy is accused of?

I understand the deportation order is because he did not admit to being a concentration camp guard, but would he be tried for anything in another country?

Is being a concentration camp guard or a Nazi in WW2 enough on its own?

 

being a guard apparently but he claims he was forced to do it. He is a Pole. I looked yesterday and apparently there were almost zero Polish collaborators. I also noticed that the Nazis got people from POW camps to work in that camp.

I thought he admitted it but said he was coerced.

I don't know about other countries but they apparently tried to deport him to Europe in 2004 and Europe would not have him.

I think being a cleaner would be enough now. If you have watched yesterday to any extent you may have seen this man

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...oning-auschwitz-jailed-for-the-of-300000-jews

Now I know he put in for a transfer because he did not like it there and I am also almost certain he asked to be transferred to the front he was so keen to get away which is somewhat different to what is said in the link. The argument in the above link is that he, as an accountant, helped to keep the cogs going and for that reason he is guilty of the murder of 300,000 people even though he had nothing else to do with it. They will have known about him for decades as he was quite open speaking about what had happened. I think now though, anything including being a cleaner would be enough.

 

Thank you, I was not aware that prosecutions such as this existed, I will certainly be discussing this with my old friends from the services. It has ramifications for any soldier serving or otherwise.

 

This is proof the U.S. government still backs the Nazi's.

 

Why not, after all we have been arming and supporting Nazis in Ukraine. Oh that's right they're the good Nazis, they kill Russians not Jews.

 

If they don't have a proof he is a war criminal they should leave him alone.

 

What is proof in these cases? The people they have been finding these past last 10 years are like your average guard to even a cook. Not exactly people in charge. It's not as if people who were assigned to be a guard in a deathcamp could file for a transfer at the nazi regime because the human rights violations were against their clear conscious. Add to it that the deliberately massacring of German civilians with firebombs is still considered totally fine by the western/allied. Same group wants to drag Assad to a court for doing just that in Syria.

 

The guy is reported as being Polish so the only reason you are mentioning Ukrainians is because your Kremlin bosses tell you to.

 

And yet Greece had to pay an arm and a leg for the same subs to protect itself from the Turkish threat. In the meantime the Greeks were never compensated for the crimes Germany committed in WWII. Almost a million people died from murder and hunger out of a population of seven million under the Nazi occupation, yet all the Greeks ever received from them was one excuse after the other.

 

The guy is reported as being Polish so the only reason you are mentioning Ukrainians is because your Kremlin bosses tell you to.

 

That's not why. It's a simple deduction:

German = Nazi
Nazi = Ukrainian (Galatian)
German = Nazi = Ukrainian (Galatian)​

Now do you see the ralationship?

 

And, you make this grand, sweeping, & omniscient pronouncement based on what?