Part 7 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

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    I know it because I read the Bible.
    See, you are lying you lie that I made up that God appear to Moses, to the prophets and to the Apostles, the Bible is well written and it is the Bible that I got my facts.
     
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    I've seen most christians here, rip muslims new ones when they talk/debate with them.
    So, I can't feel sorry for you.
     
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    Then you should have no problem linking this. About moses. Why did you not?
     
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    I have given you three very good reasons now for someone like you to believe, and they are all logical rational reasons. If those reasons can't at least enlighten you I don't know what can.

    Maybe you are looking for philosophical reasons, I do have them and I will try that route later on, right now I'm going to watch the ball game on TBS between the Tigers & A's.
     
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    Linking what?
    Read the Bible about Moses and God unless you mean you do not know that the Bible did mention God and Moses did you or didn't you know that? Is that the reason why you claim I am making things up about Moses and God because you are not familiar about the Bible?
     
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    There is nothing to rip about Muslims, Muslims since Mohammed founded Islam they have been ripping Christians and Jews. Christians have from the time of Christ up to now are being persecuted, and we do not ask for sympathy because in reality the persecutors are the ones who are hurting themselves and we feel very sorry for them.
     
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    Do you have any remote piece of evidence to suggest that the devout experience more tragedy than those "far from God"? Anything?
    That is a profoundly silly thing to say.
     
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    I'm not so picky about exactly what kind of reasons you present, as long as they are indeed good reasons to become a Christian.

    However, I'm not seeing that that's what you have done with the reasons you have given.

    The first reason was that Jesus taught good things, but seeing how that can happen without divine intervention, it is not a good argument for the veracity of Christianity. This can be demonstrated through the fact that the same is true for Jainists, but you don't believe them, do you?

    The second and third arguments would be good arguments if we assumed that the Bible is true in both its theological and factual claims. Seeing how "someone like me" or the person without preconceptions or a child have no reason to believe that in the first place, they are not good reasons. Similarly, we can argue that if the Qur'an is correct, then Islam is obviously the correct religion, but you still don't believe that, do you?

    You're obviously using some other mechanism for choosing Christianity, since the methods you claim you use don't actually single Christianity out.
     
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    I wonder if any Christians actually know why they are Christians?
     
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    Well, whoever I ask, I tend to get answers like the ones I've been given here. Or really complex semi-reasons that are hard to discuss, which is why I'm hesitating to start a whole thread on it.
     
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    Yes, many Christians actually know why they embrace Christianity they know so well that they gave up their wealth, power, prestige and lives to protect others.

    I accepted Christianity because after careful factual research, studies and soul searching base on facts, conscience and mind I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God He is the True God of all the other gods He has proven Himself in words and deeds.

    I can understand why some Christians especially now a days have use Christianity as a career not as a vocation because it is the nature of man to be attracted to material wealth. At the same time I wonder why so many anti Christians hate Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ who have done nothing wrong he only taught love, justice and equality to all, he live an exemplary life in a time where human rights is none existence?
     
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    It is not that complicated to argue is it the Quran or the Holy Bible? Put those two books side by side and go page by page and you will come out in the end that the Bible is the True Holy Book that was mention in the Quran that Mohammed supposed to protect and introduce to the desert people (Muslims) this why many Muslim scholars have stay away from a true open discussion with leaders of the church they know that Mohammed got it wrong but because Islam is so deeply fringe politically control (those members of a group or political party holding extreme views) Muslim scholars and leaders could not longer or find it very difficult to get out of Islam they risk total chaos within the Muslim society to reform Islam and unite it with Christianity.
     
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    I did, I must have a different bible. I'm not seeing what you see. Can you help me out?
    Where is God stating for moses to act on his behalf?
     
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    You would let a lost soul reaching out to you wait til later,while you watch baseball? Wow. Opportunity lost?
     
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    You make a few claims with out any support.
    But start with what's bolded.
    Why would one come out with "your" conclusion?
     
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    This has very little to do with my post. For starters, you're not providing an argument for the Bible over the Qur'an, you're just saying there is one, which, since my main criticism is the inability of some people to write their full reasons, is quite frustrating.

    Secondly, if you were actually to produce such a reason, it has nothing to do with my argument. My argument includes a line of thought that assumes that you believe the Qur'an, regardless of whether I think that's actually true.

    It can also be added that Muslim societal reform has nothing to do with the subject I was discussing
     
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    In your study did you get to the part about integrity?
     
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