Racist Netanyahu lectures UK govt.

If the sanctions imposed on Iran were imposed on Israel, they would barely last a day before they were whining and crying, and saying it represented a genocide.

 

Top Jewish Republicans funding Iran sanctions think tank


WASHINGTON (JTA) — The three top donors to the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, the leading think tank advocating for Iran sanctions, are top Republican Jewish fundraisers.

A review of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies’ financial filings published this week by Salon, an online magazine, found that between 2008 and 2011, Bernard Marcus, the founder of Home Depot, had given the foundation nearly $11 million; Paul Singer, a hedge fund billionaire, had given $3.6 million; and Sheldon Adelson, the casino magnate, had donated about $1.5 million.

All three are active in the Republican Jewish Coalition and donate to other Jewish causes.

Marcus, who filmed an anti-Obama ad for the Republican Jewish Coalition last year, helped found the Israel Democracy Institute; Adelson is a major funder of Birthright Israel; and Singer is a board member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs.

The foundation has taken a lead role in recent years in drafting Iran sanctions legislation, although its officials have mostly stayed out of the battles between Congress and the Obama administration over how and when to apply them. The sanctions legislation has passed with strong bipartisan and White House backing, and foundation officials have worked with lawmakers in both parties to pass it and have consulted with administration departments on implementation..

http://www.jta.org/2013/08/06/news-...epublicans-fund-fdd-iran-sanctions-think-tank

More random coincidences..


After its establishment in 2001, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies had bipartisan support, but it lost a number of its Democratic backers in 2008 when a similarly named group founded by foundation President Clifford May ran ads targeting congressional Democrats for not favoring expanded government espionage powers.

 

And it will remain as an 'if' Jack so guess we will never know as Israel is not in violation of any UNSC Chapter 7 Resolutions.

 

If a Jew in Britain decides to take up their criminal Israeli citizenship/nationality, fine, let them.

But in doing so they should have their British status stripped and told to leave.

Further, since we do not give a platform to other racist extremist on tv etc, it's time that licence payers money was not used to pay the salary of racist Jews like the Israeli sayanim, Melanie Phillips.

 

It's a strawman because there is no evidence whatsoever that Iran is, or plans to, pursue a nuclear weapons programme. The figures you cited represent a snapshot and are therefore misleading. More broadly speaking, Palestinian casualties far exceed Israeli casualties. Kemp is an establishment figure, a devout Christian Zionist whose loyalties are with Israel. His perspective is partial and, therefore, not credible.

 

Why should anyone outside the usual suspects care about Palestinians or Iran ?
Neither are our problems , if they like they can fight it out outside the paper wars .
Netanyahou like all politicians made some statements , it is not mandatory to take them seriously ... specially when they come from people who cry wolf all the time.

 

They are not adhering to the rules of the NPT which dictate what they can and cannot do and what inspections they are subject to.

Perhaps you can tell us what the true figures are since you dispute these ones.

Please show us all where he is lying then.

So, to sum up, you don't like my links, my stats and quotes and call them 'strawman,' (which if you looked the word up is not used anything at all like you are attempting to use it as) state my numbers are wrong without having any of your own and, trash a credible war hero who is the worlds leading authority on urban warfare yet have nothing, not a thing to counter his findings. I sense the use of character assassination rather than facts in use to a great degree here as you do that same tactic with the head of the IAEA and refuse to acknowledge that the UNSC Resolution is not adhered to and it matters not who is running the IAEA as it is only the tool which the UNSC uses to verify things in Iran. If Iran has a problem with this then they are perfectly capable of stating such and coming up with a compromise but they don't as that is not the real issue. The issue is they don't wish to allow inspections which is counter to the NPT and will of the UN.

 

There are many people who care about others, rather than just themselves.

In my opinion, it is human nature to care about others.

I assume you disagree.

 

No i do not disagree at all but in Palestinian - Israeli conflict we obviously have to do with either lunatics or idiots . Continuing the same policies of conflict for 70 years now drove them nowhere but they can not think anything better , if this is their will who am i to meddle into their affairs ?
Iran has the right to defend itself and keep on trolling the rest of the planet making nonsense statements for domestic consumption, if those statements are the opium of their masses who am i to protest ?

 

The Palestinians have pursued a policy of defense for 70 years.

Do you not believe in the concept of defending land from foreign occupiers, or only for a limited amount of time?

 

Their lands? since when?
It is the land of both and they refuse to live together ...not to mention what your Palestinian friends tried to do in Jordan and Lebanon.

 

Since time immemorial.

It's (non-Palestinian) Israelis who are the immigrants, and descendants of recent immigrants, not the Palestinians.

Israel occupies Palestine. Palestine does not occupy Israel.

The Palestinians in occupied Palestine refuse to live with their occupiers, just as Europeans in occupied countries refused to live with their German occupiers in WW2.

 

Open any map from Old Egyptian kingdom era to 7th century , notify me if you find any city or even a village with a Palestinian name

 

If you are trying to address my argument, I suggest addressing what I actually said.

 

Communism and Zionism eh?

Two ugly sisters.

 

I just addressed your "time immemorial" comment which of course was false.

Communism and nationalism are sisters ? good one .

 

You selectively used Kemp's selective citation of figures. You see that's the point. Any fool can mislead by, for example, disingenuously highlighting specific date baselines as a means of pushing a political agenda. That's Kemp's role. A far more nuanced longer-term analysis reveals the indisputable fact that since the beginning of hostilities, Palestinian casualties far exceed Israeli casualties. Kemp's position on Cast Lead during 2008/09, was a classic illustration of his politically-motivated bias which was subsequently picked up by researchers at Glasgow Media Group. As far as the IAEA is concerned, it is a political tool and hence it's findings cannot be relied upon. Amano himself has admitted that his role is to facilitate US objectives.

 

I said Communism and Zionism were ugly sisters.

Please wake up.

Thanks

 

Okay so you don't only have no idea about communism but you also ignore that zionism is Jewish nationalism .
........and i need to wake up .....

 

Rather than admit you made a mess of my quote, you want to shift the blame for your error back to me.

 

Well then let's use Hamas figures then.

Hamas admits 600-700 of its men were killed in Cast Lead

Total Casualties 1387

So, looks like Kemps numbers match up. So much for your silly unsubstantiated argument.

And next source you come up with I'll form some bogus argument like yours stating they are biased, hateful, influenced yadda yadda ....and then unlike you, actually show counter figures to support my own argument.

Anyhow, the numbers were real and you were wrong. Pfft

Nobody is relying on their findings as they don't have any as Iran is not cooperating with the UNSC and allowing inspections to take place.

Well too bad for Iran as they need to allow the IAEA in so that the sanctions can be lifted.

 

Btw, Mutkep + just to assist you and everything, when one refers to two things are being "like sisters", they are not saying that both things are identical in every way. This now saves you from getting it wrong again, and you can return to making your Zionist Jew type arguments as before..

"Vote communist". What a sick joke.

 

I see. Do you accept that the ancestors of the Palestinians have lived there for several centuries...

...and that the ancestors of most Jews who currently live there, immigrated much more recently?

I take it you agree with the other points I made:

 

What ancestors? they are Arab or Arabized , they speak Arabic and follow an Arabic religion , no i do not accept anything.
What you forgot to paste from wiki

we can read too ...

What if 8.000.000 Malays immigrate in south Vietnam ? South Vietnam was the land of the Malay Cham who were exterminated by their northern neighbors back in 15th century , this means that they have no right to live there?
What if 20.000.000 Germans immigrate to Old Prussia ? they were forced to abandon their lands after WW2 , this means what exactly?

History is history and i can agree and disagree with anything but point is that they both have claims to the land and they should find a formula to live together , as 70 years of hostilities have proven war isn't working . Doing the same thing and expecting different results is stupid.

 

You ain't getting this at all. Since the beginning of hostilities, Palestinian casualties far outnumber Israeli casualties. This is an undeniable fact that only morons and/or ideologues would deny. And that's the point. Kemp and yourself take a snapshot while ignoring the broader picture. What you also fail to (apparently) grasp is that it doesn't matter what Iran does or doesn't do, since the IAEA under Amano has become a politicised pro-US/Israel propaganda weapon. Amano has said so himself - admitted it. Now, where is the evidence that Iran is developing nuclear weapons, again? That's right, there is none - nadda, doesn't exist.