Racist Netanyahu lectures UK govt.

He loved the Europeans that were killing Jews!

 

What year is it now?

 

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It was a continuous process.. beginning in about 1920 and made worse by the Zionist gangs.. You screwed up because of fear and greed..

Its probably too late to expect Israel to do the right thing... and I will be gone from this earth while they will still be forcing the Palestinians off their land. There's NO right way to do the wrong thing.

Just like there is no way to excuse the Nazis from demonizing the Jews, incarcerating them, taking their property and killing them...The Palestinians are paying for Jewish troubles in Europe with their land and blood.

 

I'm fifth generation white/Spanish/Indian/Swedish/Scottish American. How did 'we' screw up?

Beg to differ but the land was never the Palestinians.

No, they are paying for not facing reality and realizing the there was going to be a Jewish state whether they liked it or not as that is what the world decided should be there along side a Palestinians one which had never existed there before or anywhere else.

 

Benjamin Netanyahu, who believes his years of Iranophobia attempts are reaching a dead end with the recent diplomatic outreach launched by the government of new Iranian President Rouhani, is conspiring yet another deceit campaign in and around Europe to prevent a possible thaw in the Islamic Republic’s relations with the west.

It would be interesting to think that Rouhani's outreach can be interpreted both as a call for reapproachment and a warning. Warning because he may play on the hochi minh theme when ho approached the french in 1950 with a peace deal but was turned down but then consequently won the war, or the theme of mendes-france who made an appeal at the u.n. in 1955 for a world-wide ban of nukes, but predictably or not his appeal fell on deaf ears so before he was back from new york he gave a go ahead to develop the french atomic bomb. Rouhani may also play Gorbi who in 1987 called for a complete nuclear disarmament but understood it impossible, so instead he hinted he would be satisfied with mutual ballistic cuts and abandoment of plans to move the nuclear exchange theatre into space and away from the ground under a guise of a protective shield. In any case, what Rouhani said was, we have done some research and may move into higher development stage unless israel gives up all its chem and nuclear weapons given syria has already pledged such committment and iran may follow suit but on precondition israel will do the same, say, just as gorbi linked further progress in nuclear disarmament to abandoment to Reagan's shield. It will be interesting to see whether israel would be willing to part with its 200 nukes or even compromise on the matter?

 

Why on earth would Israel get rid of weapons in the middle of a war? It makes more sense for the world to pressure North Korea, Pakistan and India to rid themselves of theirs as they certainly are not facing a hostile group of states who maintain this state of war.

Lol, get rid of their nukes ........ I suppose that the Arabs making peace and taking the destruction of Israel off the table first and allowing for a period of trust to develop is just too much of a stretch for some.

 

Ho chi minh was often described as a wolf in sheep's clothing. I don't know if israeli's recent equal comparison of rouhani holds as much water. One would guess rouhani's intentions were good, but israel always looks for any angle to feed the ego.

 

Why would you guess that when there is no room to guess but rather as a leader responsible for the safety of millions of Israelis, you have to be sure and, why would one feel that given that the Guardian Council runs the show in Iran, he is able to carry out his own policy, 'guessing' that that policy is benign?

 

"Compromise".

Them?

They only understand taking, stealing, and as you mention with their clearly deranged leader, lying.

Give them a month of sanctions Israel would be crying and whimpering.

That's what they need, some tough lessons.

You don't appease a shark by feeding a shark...

 

I think all Jew haters need some sanctions, within a moment they would be crying like little babies.

 

How can a perpetual beggar and welfare state have an ego?

 

The Palestinians are a very proud people Jack.

 

That and apartheid. So in order that israel keep its status quo, perhaps the middle east should be made nuke and chem free, but let israel keep 3 or 4 nukes for deterrence just like in south africa?

 

Even most nations that are at peace do not give up nuclear weapons so why on earth would you expect them to give up weapons when seven states that declared war on them have still not made peace and another is making hostile overtures?

As for three or four to use as deterrence it won't work as that only increases the chances they will have to be used as an enemy will feel that by attacking they can beat the odds of a nuclear triad.

 

Screw them

Cut their money and free stuff and they will soon be on their knees begging.

 

The money they get in return for the free stuff they give the US only makes up about five percent of their economy Jack. And if they lost that they would make cuts in their military such as using lead instead of rubber bullets, real grenades rather than stun, less attempting of minimizing civilian casualties due to lack of training and such. Iin other words, they would survive quite nicely and it would be somebody else that suffers.

 

What we need is a total and absolute trade ban with Israel.

Until they learn to behave.

When they behave a small reward may be in order.

But only a small one. You can't trust a state that hate non Jews and who are, by definition anti Christian.

 

I don't find their behavior offensive Jack rather, I find those who hate Jews and wish them all dead very much offensive. So possibly a trade ban on all of them?

 

And who would that be? Iran has its religious chants sure, and don't give me the Hezbollah support. The U.S(specifically the C.I.A) does the same thing(on a much more global scale).

Iran not exercising even that much authority would simply amaze me, maybe they should do it(even if it risks Iranian national security) just to stun Netanyahu and take away another one of his talking points.

 

I dont live in Jerusalem or the West Bank, I live in Rishon Le Zion, Central Israel, near the coast, abit South to Tel Aviv.

 

What was it called before 1882?

 

The thorny bush

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24435408

 

It was interesting to see JN's biases juxtaposed with Netanyahu's biases in the OP. To my eyes, neither one of them came off as rational actors with a cold-eyed view of the world. Netanyahu feels that Israel can't tolerate an Iran with nuclear weapons (even though Israel has lots of their own that they could threaten Iran with) and that the interests of Europe in this matter somehow match those of Israel in most particulars (particularily loved the bullying tone).

JN, on the other hand, sees Israel as a near-Satanic enemy of mankind and this perception shades all his rhetoric and analysis. Why all the invective for the annoying leader of a nation of perhaps 8 million people, of whom only 6 million are Jewish?