Racist Netanyahu lectures UK govt.

What on earth does that have to do with anything? There is no rule of war, no moral or legal rule which states that their losses and your losses must be comparable. Nowhere, anywhere in history is there anything of the sort.

So if Iran allows the IAEA access to Parchin and the sanctions are lifted this is bad for Iran. Ok, spell this one out for me please.

 

You are in your own little world - a bubble of your own making. Sorry, when you arrive on planet earth again, give me a call. You cited Kemp who is pro-Israel and the now the discredited IAEA, upon which the UN base their decisions, to make your case. Your case is bunkum. There is no evidence that Iran is developing nuclear weapons and historically the ratio of 1:1 as claimed by Kemp is bogus.

 

Already there awaiting your arrival to tell us why, when defending against those who attack you, one has to ensure that they allow for equal amounts of your own people to be killed.

Just wondering what reality that rule is based in.

And verified the information using Hamas which is, by the way, very anti Israel.

No, used the UNSC which you don't seem to believe has any right to hold Iran accountable to anything or anybody because you don't like one of the people who is tasked by the UNSC to inspect even though the problem is not this person but rather the fact that .......

IRAN WON'T ALLOW ANYBODY TO INSPECT PARCHIN!

 

You really need to inform yourself of the situation regarding Parchin:

www.lobelog.cpm/how-the-media-got-parchin-access-story-wrong/

Then we can proceed.

 

Parents, grand-parents, great-grandparents, and so on.

Assuming you know the definition of ''ancestors,'' where would you claim that the ancestors of most Palestinians came from, and when would you claim they immigrated to what is now Israel and Palestine?

You have not provided any information that contradicts the well-sourced facts in the wiki article I posted. Please post some sourced information to support your argument.

Even if you change your nationality, move to a different country, and/or learn to speak a different language, your ancestors remain the same. There are many things you can change about yourself, but you cannot change your ancestors.

So no, I didn't forget to post that. It's irrelevant to the point I am making, that you are attempting to avoid.

It means that you're trying to divert the discussion.

Anyone can agree with anything, and disagree with anything, but what I do is agree with facts, and disagree with fallacies.

It is unrealistic to expect the Palestinians, or anyone else for that matter, to ''find a formula'' to live under a hostile foreign occupation.

Freedom from oppression isn't something you give up fighting for, no matter how long it takes.

 

Actually your May 2012 news article is a bit outdated, allow me to provide you with the ISIS report from earlier this year .....

ISIS Reports
Update on the Parchin Site

by David Albright and Robert Avagyan

August 22, 2013

 

Since the demand to have Millions of Muslims enter Israel is just another way to reject 181, we see the Hamas quest for "freedom" as another word for BS....

 

How is Netanyahu a racist?

 

That is not logical. Did you see the quest for equal rights in South Africa, as ''another word for BS,'' because it was a way to reject the apartheid state?

A quest for freedom is simply that.

It is human nature to not want to be discriminated against, on the grounds of race or religion.

 

In essence, the information contained in the piece I posted is correct and counters the anti-Iranian propaganda about Parchin. You attempted a fast one and got called on it - AS USUAL.

 

It BS and the two dont compare,

Its BS because that's NOT Hamas quest, they DONT want to live side by side they want to live over Israel and they do that by demanding 10 Mil Muslims to enter Israel, thus destroying the concept of Israel and 181.


The 2 dont compare for many reasons, historiclly, ethniclly, legally but ill focus just on the politic side to keep it simple (I also dont wish to engage in futile debate wether Jews are really Jews or not) Whites lived in S. Africa to control the Africans, use them in their economy while excluding them from Gov, Israel wanted seperated countries while including the Israeli Arabs in all public life, what very few restrictions there are is soley because of the fued with their brothers, Palestine and Israel are ment to be seprated countries, not one as was in S. Africa.

 

Of course the two compare. Hamas no more wants to live beside a racist Jewish state, than the black South Africans in the banstustans wanted to live beside a racist white state.

You will always be able to find differences when comparing any two different situations, but Israel and South Africa are comparable for the reasons I have mentioned.

 

To reiterate, for the benefit of others, in the article cited titled, ‘How the media got the Parchin story wrong,’ investigative journalist Gareth Porter wrote that ‘explicit statements on the issue by the Iranian Ambassador to the IAEA and the language of the new IAEA report indicate that Iran did not reject an IAEA visit to the base per se but was only refusing access as long as no agreement had been reached with the IAEA governing the modalities of cooperation’.

Porter added:

‘But not a single major news media report has reported the significant difference between initial media coverage on the Parchin access issue and the information now available from the initial IAEA report and Soltanieh [Iranian Permanent Representative to the IAEA, Ali Asghar Soltanieh].’

Seems as though you, Drew, have been overly preoccupied with the initial media coverage of the story, as opposed to the subsequent availability of information.

 

Didn't use the media at all but rather the May 2013 ISIS Report. You are the one using the media, and, more than a year old at that!

"As seen in the latest satellite imagery (see figure 1), one year and a half later, Iran is still in the process of altering the site all the while denying the IAEA access to the site or to related documents and personnel. While claiming to be unfairly judged, Iran has seemingly done everything possible to undermine the claim of its own innocence."

 

Oh, in that case we dont want to live next to Hamas that denies self determination of the jewish ppl and its right for a state as voted in the UN, so we too FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, and now we get the right to blow ppl up in resturants right ?

 

The piece I cited counteracts the notion that the Iranian's denied the IAEA access. The above perpetuates the said misinformation. So I'm not sure what your point is.

 

Israel has been blowing up Palestinians ever since Israel existed. The UN voted to make all Palestinians who lived in the Jewish state, citizens of that state, at the time that it was declared.

 

They werent cattle without minds..., the Mufti led them and led the fights, they refused to be part of any Jewish state way before 1948, still there are 1.5 Muslims in their villages in Israel today so you can safely say Jews did not aim to kick out all Arabs - otherwise they would have.

 

So now it's the Mufti's fault, is it?

Jews in Israel refuse to be any part of a state where people have equal rights, regardless of religion.

You should get used to the fact that people will fight for equal rights, including in advance of unequal rights being imposed on them.

 

The Mufti left Palestine in 1937 after years of trying to stem the flood of European Zionists into Palestine.

Do you think refugees have the right to take your home?

 

It's amazing, isn't it? As far as I am aware Israel is the only country in the world that does not recognise its own nationality.

Israel refuses to recognize its own nationality: Israeli Supreme Court says ‘Israeli’ nationality could endanger idea of Jewish state


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...409724-2cbe-11e3-b141-298f46539716_story.html

 

The Mufti commanded the Palestinians.....what's there to deny? you deny the Arabs refused 181? that they fought against it ?


Israeli Arabs have equal rights and they dont fight Israel, you got your facts wrong.

 

And he returned to it,


My home was never Arab, it was a bush before Jews made it into a city, but do I think refugees have rights on what they lost during the war ? in a perfect solution - compleate cease of hostileties, I would say they do desreve compensation, but I dont think we will ever reach that. Hamas is not intersted to solve it with no further hostility.

 

You used a report a year and a half old that was a news story. I cited a report from the agency overseeing the inspections and they say your second hand story is bogus as Iran has not allowed inspections fto take place. Now, your media story by the media says the media got it wrong and my actual report says your second hand story is out of date and wrong.

 

I have been to Jerusalem and the West Bank.. It wasn't a bush when I was there.

I realize that the Mufti is controversial.. He wanted to stop the flood of refugees.. not because they were Jews but because they were Europeans.. and he knew that violence would increase.

I came across this and thought you should see it.

In mid May 1940, despairing of their ability to secure control of Iraq's oil fields and deny access to Germany, the British turned to the extremist Irgun, approaching one of its commanders, David Raziel, whom they had imprisoned in Mandatory Palestine. They asked him if he would undertake to destroy Iraq's oil refineries, and thus turn off the spigots to Germany. Raziel agreed on condition he be allowed to "acquire"(kidnap) the Mufti and bring him back to Palestine. The mission plan was changed at the last moment, however, and Raziel died when his plane was shot down by a German fighter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haj_Amin_al-Husseini