When are Arabs going to pay for the White slave trade? When are Jews going to pay for Israeli sex trafficking?
Why should their descendants get reparations because of slavery? It was horrible the way black people were enslaved and treated in the 1800s, but the descendants of black slaves today are living a far better life in America than they would if their ancestors stayed in Africa.
Nothing in this source demonstrates how Africans caused the Atlantic Slave Trade. If anything it supplies evidence that the trade was initiated by slavers and that many people were kidnapped and raided into slavery.
how about you clean your own backyard first, it looks a bit hypocritical not to mention childish. never mind me throwing bricks at old ladies, look what johnny did to that cat!
Hold on, so you take captive 18 million so- called africans, invade the continent, massacre millions, put them in debt by millions, steel all of their Artefacts, rob all of their gold and diamonds then straight out of yo poopa you spurt look at the state of africa! are you a complete -american- ?
Why should black people get reparations today because of what happened to their ancestors centuries ago? Especially taken into consideration the good lives theyre living in America as opposed to lfe in Africa. I'm not saying that made slavery justified, but im using that as an argugement was to why giving them reparations makes no sense.
Cool. Why are you here when you could also be cleaning your backyard? Which backyard was it again, I'm guessing not the White one. - - - Updated - - - So you're focused on applying one way punishments to Whites as a group and nobody else? Why?
Note also how Jonah can write "you are White clean your backyard" with no worries, but if I wrote "you are a Jew go clean your backyard" I would probably be banned from PF. Such are the times.
It doesn't absolve them of blame. But if you are seriously demanding for reparations to be made, then there is 0 reason why whites should have to pay up before these African tribes' modern descendants do
Yeah it does. Right here: "The Atlantic slave traders, ordered by trade volume, were: the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Spanish, the Dutch Empire, and the Thirteen Colonies. Several had established outposts on the African coast where they purchased slaves from local African leaders.[3] Current estimates are that about 12 million Africans were shipped across the Atlantic,[4] although the number purchased by the traders is considerably higher.[5][6][7]" http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade But here are the other two I posted in case you missed them
Africans have been apologizing, reaching out to the diaspora, and working on restitution. Also, the case is not about individuals, but about companies/institutions. In your own quote, it says "The Atlantic slave traders, ordered by volume..." For there to be a supply, there must be demand. This crf-usa source you provided contradicts your wiki source. In your attempt to put it all on the Africans (see underline-bolded), you forgot to consult your wiki source: "...Most other slaves were obtained from kidnappings, or through raids that occurred at gunpoint through joint ventures with the Europeans.[20]" One or both of these sources must be disqualified. Before I address your points further, let me know which source that is.
In West Africa, people live in miserable living conditions in huts, the living standard (like with healthcare) is very poor, many dont have access to safe water or appropriate sanitation, diseases like ebola are widespread, and terrorist groups like boko haram are causing trouble. Why should the descendants of people from there get reparations? They're living a good life in America for the most part, compared to the people who live in western africa. Im not being racist-im just stating facts regarding why reparations makes no sense. My arguement would be the same if the descendants of slaves were any other race.
So many problems with reparations it is mind boggling: Under what legal cause could it be justified? Define who get the reparations, the possibilities are endless. How many can actually prove they have one drop of blood from ancestors that were slaves? Should those that have no family that was involved in slavery be require to add their money to the reparations? The idea of paying reparations might sound great to some, especially those that believe they will get some, we all like Free Money, but actually paying them would be near impossible. What would be interesting to discover is how many people would find out that their ancestors were not slaves in the US and either came from other countries where they were slaves or moved here for a better life. I would also be curious to see how many would discover that they are the off-spring of many races, shows that delve into gene tracing often surprises people as to why their roots actually come from.
Besides your symbolic racism, im not racist, its just that everything ipost makes me look racist, it always amazes me when total -americans- try to compare america to Afrika without acknowledging the devastating impact americans had on the continent throughout its 300 year colonial reign.
If colonialism made Africa unstable and poor, why is South Africa more developed than the rest of the continent?
What did I post that was racist? Nothing I posted expressed prejudice or dislike of people based on their skin color or racial background. I simply said the descendants of people who live a good standard of living in America shouldnt get reparations for what happened in the past that caused that. I agree it was unfair that many slaves didnt get reparations-but that means nothing today. Nobody alive today lived through slavery.
maybe you should read what you posted again and think before you post in future. You may not think what you post is racist, some ppl who think they are not racist post things that appear racist, its symbolic racism that is in your conditioning and subconscious.
its like this; you invade and bomb iraq for 20 years, turning it into a massive pile of rubble. then you have the ignorance to state that who would want to live in Iraq, its a dump! that is what you are doing, same thing. ppl like that make me sick, the ignorance is unbelievable.
Whats the difference between racism and symbolic racism? I thought you are either racist or not. I never viewed racism as a gray area issue. The way I view it-I have no predjudice against people, and im not racist.
symbolic racism is where an individual can state things that are racist but they dont realize they are.
I heard about this yesterday. It frightens the hell out of me. People still wanting re-payment for something that happened over a hundred years ago. Can you imagine the door that is opened if these reparations are actually granted? Especially considering that black people have a really high standard of living in the United States. Think of the opportunities that are presented by being in the United States that are simply unavailable in Africa. I saw the poster above me mentioning that whites are responsible for what is wrong with Africa, but I don't buy that at all. All this talk of reparations is people trying to hold their hands out for free money, and wrapping it in some moral trappings to justify it.
