Reparations for Slavery: No legal argument.

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  1. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    There isn't any debt. African Americans can think what they want. No one is indebted to them for anything.
     
  2. That guy who's right

    That guy who's right New Member

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    When they get reparations from the African tribes that originally enslaved their ancestors then sold them to Europeans then we'll talk. Everyone always forgets that black slavery was caused by black people
     
  3. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    Enough of this delusion. Africans did not cause the Atlantic Slave Trade. Show me where Africans reached out to the traders in the Americas and elsewhere to trade slaves. Today like yesterday, you'll find white people in Africa to do nothing else but exploit. No more nonsense without proof from here on in :steamed:.
     
  4. Sab

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    There are no so called AfriKAn americans.
     
  5. Sab

    Sab Active Member

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    Traders bought slaves from black slavers. FACT. What is not fact is the nonsense about white slavers going into africa to kidnap blacks. Didn't happen.
    The trade was mutually neficial to the dominant tribes and to the merchants.

    Anyway the US government owes nothing and nor does the British French or Spanish.
     
  6. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    Few things. One, though no legal basis exist, precedent is enough to establish a case. Two, relying on a white dominated government to keep its word on adhering to judgments is a very long shot. We can review Native American and our political history for evidence. Three, unfortunately, any reparations would be met with terrible strings attached. But at least reparations should at least include a proportionate-to-judgement amount in arable land.

    http://asq.africa.ufl.edu/laremont_99/
     
  7. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    Don't they try to "call it in" every day, day after day, ever since Boasian Jewish Marxists decided to use Negroes as the new "proletariat" to attack White Christian civilization.
     
  8. DarkSkies

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    This post is full of crap because guess what? The Haitians pay the French for reparations for the monies lost during their insurrection to stop their slavery. Only white people will do this left is right, up is down, inside is out crap. Slaves paying their benefactors reparations! Twilight Zone indeed. Aside from re-writing history, what receipts exist that prove that these slaves weren't kidnapped? What were white people doing in Africa ffs?
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    Source?

    Jews do this as standard.
     
  10. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    Here they are:
    http://www.ijdh.org/2010/03/topics/economy/restitution-of-haitis-independence-debt/ or
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_debt_of_Haiti
    http://www.africanglobe.net/africa/africa-colonized-france/

    ..........................what?!
     
  11. That guy who's right

    That guy who's right New Member

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    It's a well known fact. Maybe you should do a little research and catch up. This'll get you started:

    "The Atlantic slave traders, ordered by trade volume, were: the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Spanish, the Dutch Empire, and the Thirteen Colonies. Several had established outposts on the African coast where they purchased slaves from local African leaders.[3] Current estimates are that about 12 million Africans were shipped across the Atlantic,[4] although the number purchased by the traders is considerably higher.[5][6][7]"
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade
     
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    "Historically, West Africa is associated with the slave, gold and ivory trades, perhaps most often the former. West Africa is also the place of origin of vodou, the only indigenous African religion to survive the trans-Atlantic slave trade and remain in practice in the Americas today. The historical roots of racial discrimination in the United States today can be traced back to North American slavery and the kidnapping of more than 20 million Africans. It is easily assumed, therefore, that the African slave trade pit brutal, gun-wielding European slaver traders against unsuspecting, passive African victims. While the Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, English and French slave traders were often brutal, they were not always working alone -- many Africans were also complicit in this victimization. Precolonial empires such as Dahomey and Ashanti (located in what is now Benin and Ghana), where slave ports at Ouidah and Elmina flourished, accumulated enormous wealth and power as a result of the trade of their fellow Africans."
    http://www.pbs.org/wonders/Episodes/Epi3/slave_2.htm

    [drops the mic]
     
  13. That guy who's right

    That guy who's right New Member

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    It just keeps on making me more right.

    "About 50 percent of the slaves were taken as prisoners during the frequent tribal wars occurring among the West African kingdoms. Another 30 percent became slaves as punishment for crimes or indebtedness. The remainder were kidnapped by black slave traders."
    http://www.crf-usa.org/black-history-month/the-slave-trade
     
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    That guy who's right New Member

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    I knew I was right. I did not know I was THIS right.

    'The Civil Rights Congress of Nigeria has written to tribal chiefs saying: "We cannot continue to blame the white men, as Africans, particularly the traditional rulers, are not blameless."'
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
     
  15. J0NAH

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    eternal damnation it will be then.
     
  16. J0NAH

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    this doesnt excuse europeans of the debt owed to so- called african americans. This fallacy of "tommy stole sweets from the shop too, so it must be ok" is just that, a fallacy.
    How about you man up, repent and admit what you did was abhorrent instead of constantly pointing the finger. Take responsibility for once in your life and you may get some respect.
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    Judah and Elmina forts were built by portuguese, so they werent "pre-colonial" at all. You should research your sources more thoroughly.
     
  18. mikemikev

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    He said the empires were pre colonial. You should read posts more thoroughly.
     
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    sure they were, but the slave ports werent, as he falsley implied. built by portuguese, everybody knows this.
     
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    He did not imply that you are simply lying.
     
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    nice, very mature.
     
  22. That guy who's right

    That guy who's right New Member

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    Nothing I claimed was false. And believe it or not I am not responsible for any of it. This is the kind of bs rhetoric that makes you seem crazy.
    Plus my ancestors on both sides immigrated from Scotland and Germany after the Civil War. It's almost certain that they never owned slaves. Suck it

    Or maybe you can show me where I even mentioned slave ports in my own words?
     
  23. DarkSkies

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    Where have I seen this before where white people find the one person to absolve them :roll:? Looks inside the article and finds "The position was endorsed by Henry Bonsu, a British-born broadcaster of Ghanaian descent."
     
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    That guy who's right New Member

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    Great. Why would a British man NOT endorse it? The point is the Nigerian congress who your boy isn't connected to [Ghana and Nigeria being different countries with separate religions and all, but don't let facts get in the way], made this decision
     
  25. J0NAH

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    nice

    how old are you

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    how does this absolve europeans from the debt owed to so- called african americans exactly?
     

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