I was waiting for this post to show up. Usually, it takes about five posts before it does. It's often copied and pasted into discussions without any value added whatsoever. I must get this in a painting. The divide and conquer slick talk is equally predictable. If you read the thread, you would know that I'm talking about land, not 'wealth'. It would be a one-time designation and not some perpetual payment. The designation would only go to slave descendants, so you're imagining slights where there aren't. I'm not sure about the white hating rhetoric you have in the end of your post. Now if you'd replaced it with white hateful, then I'd agree as that's never been proven wrong.
You're hopeless. And have 0 sources. No point arguing with a bigoted guy who thinks everyone is out to get him. Have fun being wrong
Ugh. I can't stop you from taking one sentence of the source and, by taking away the information around it, making it only able to be taken out of context. Look at the huge reply post I gave to J0nah. You know, that guy who demands sources, has yet to give any of his own, and no matter how credible your sources are he says they're "not primary and it's biased" with no explanation of how or why. That post leaves no wiggle room for any argument you guys have
im not wrong, it is your ignorance as in not knowing what the one and only primary source is. iknow what it is, it doesnt take professor to know just someone genuinely interested. clearly you have no interest in this topic besides attempting to absolve any responsibility of the european. thats just typical of a small person.
Well, in this case, the value added was the actual legal concept under discussion here. Making a person "whole" legally does NOT mean putting them in a vastly superior position to their condition before the incident.
The nation's soon to be majority of Hispanics still are not going to go for it -- since what have Blacks ever done for them? -- and so I still say that all those white loathing white politicians and attorneys had better move while their lily White skins are still in predominant control. If they move fast enough to screw over this nation . . . then they just might manage it -- again.
Good question. Asking me that reminds me of Mussolinis demands of Haile Selassie as to the whereabouts of the Ark of the Covenant. thats an over exaggeration but poignant if you see what imean.
Hey. This is from the Digital History credit page you didn't look at. "The materials on this Web site include a U.S. history textbook; over 400 annotated documents from the Gilder Lehrman Collection, supplemented by primary sources on slavery, Mexican American, Asian American, and Native American history, and U.S. political, social, and legal history; succinct essays on the history of film, ethnicity, private life, and technology; multmedia exhibitions; and reference resources that include a database of annotated links, classroom handouts, chronologies, glossaries, an audio archive including speeches and book talks by historians, and a visual archive with hundreds of historical maps and images." Wait.....did you see that? Let's zoom in: "The materials on this Web site include a U.S. history textbook; over 400 annotated documents from the Gilder Lehrman Collection, supplemented by primary sources on slavery,...." So they got information from your precious primary source. Now why don't you be a use to somebody and tell me how many former black slaves you've talked to?
How much does Germany owe me for each member of my bloodline they baked or gassed? Considering how successful Jews are, they owe me all earning they all would have gathered, plus the interest😜 Start handing over the millions upon millions.
interesting and icommend your dilligence yet it has no mention of the primary source by name, as in not naming it as in makes me wonder if even they know about it. im pretty sure they dont but icould be wrong. "supplemented by primary sources.." that is the question, what is this mysterious "primary source" they speak of? Do you know? forgive me if you think im being cryptic, its not my ultimate intention.
Scripted please. Jonah do you just sit around and feel sorry for yourself or something. Go make something of yourself and be happy. It is what you do with your live that makes it better or worse for yourself, not what somebody did to someone a hundred years ago. What black Americans need is is a leader in there community that can help them improve there community. Quit blaming slavery on why the black community suffers more than most.
You are saying gold that I stole I still stole nothing. I am free of the sins of my for fathers. Is son responsible for paying lost wages to a family of a person that was murdered? No. And by king or you talking MLK? Do not follow.
exodus 34:7 visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
Look on it that way if it pleases you. The truth of the matter is that the USA is not a natural country. It is a polyglot empire composed of separate tribes competing in time and space without any principle unifying them into a single people. Such an empire has outlived its time, and should more responsive to the tribes occupying it. Let the empire be partitioned to satisfy the wishes of the competing tribes. Let everyone have a homeland they can call their own. Let the tribes move on into the future without ties or recriminations.
The idea that a persons descendants are not liable for the crimes of ancestors was set in place for a reason. Everyone was a victim at some point in their history.
I agree. It still has to start somewhere. This thread was a good way for me to flesh out an idea of reparations being used as a tool of separation, but that attempt failed. I ultimately wanted to figure out if political and physical separation from the government could occur without secession.
No democratic polity has survived the test of time. Nothing is forever. The United States of America is no exception. The Democracy of Athens, the Roman Senate, and the Republic of Venice all rose, prospered and fell. The same will happen to the USA. What is more troubling for the USA is that there is no longer such a thing as the "American People." In the absence of shared identity, experience, blood, culture, heritage, or ideals, there is no reason to pretend the American People exist. No one owes anyone anything for what has happened in the past. Let the tribes go their separate ways with or without violence, but separate they shall.
