Ron Paul supporters who will not support the GOP nominee are Liberals

Translation: I can't debate my own quotes nor can I provide quotes of the arguments I make against others.

Pathetic but predictable.

Pointing out your lies isn't hatred. The fact you categorize it that way says everything we need to know about you.

I'd rather do that than watch the Supreme Court go liberal and the rest of the judicial judges for 4 years being liberal. But you of course would prefer that so its no surprise you try to equate Republicans to Obama.

 

Of course you sold out. You allowed the most liberal president in recent history to get another 4 years instead of getting him out of office. Face it. You support liberals.

I'm still waiting for you to answer how Republicans and Obama are the same after I listed all the ways they differ.

 

More lies.

Obama and the GOP pick the same judges do they?

Do they support the same legislature?

Would the Supreme Court look the same replacing conservative judges with liberal judges?

The idiocy in pretending the GOP and Obama are the same is beyond lunacy.

What makes it so insulting is that its so easy to disprove.

 

Tex, what I consistently hear from these all or nothing types is that there is no difference between Obama and the rest of the candidates which is complete nonsense and the comparison between Romney and McCain (more nonsense). On the latter point, I would simply say a better analogy is the likes of a Ron Paul to a Barry Goldwater. Both scare(d) the hell out of independents, and like Goldwater, Paul would meet the same fate (and probably lose by the same landslide). All water under the bridge though, as Paul will not be the candidate (regardless if this thread goes on for 100 pages of arguing).

 

I have a question for you.

How can you be against welfare at home, yet support welfare for Israel?

Either you are against welfare on principle or you support welfare.

Which is it?

BTW, this is one way in which Obama and the GOP are the same...both support Welfare.

 

A fantastic point.

Goldwater is an very adapt comparison.

 

That is too easy. Israel is an ally in a hostile part of the world. We benefit from that alliance from information to base support.

And for all the "similarities" you give me between the two sides its the differences that define the direction of the nation.

Do you really believe liberal judges and conservative judges are the same?

Do you really believe Bush and Obama perused the same agenda in office?

Do you really believe the direct opposite of what you believe in and the side you have differences with but still share core values is the same?

 

Tex they are liberals with the same mentality of liberals, either you vote my way, or I'll take my ball and go home. Same with OWS, they are both saying the same thing. Where most cons would unite against the Obama assault on freedom, they WOULD cast a vote for him or the same with write in vote.

Anyone who doesn't understand that we can kick the bum out in 4 years is behaving as spoiled brats. Handing the Presidency to Obama for 4 more years is giving away all freedoms in this Republic.

There has been times in my voting age that MY CANDIDATE didn't win. Yes, I grumbled, yet knew there would be another election cycle, that isn't so sure with Obama. Even though he "promised not to detain Americans without a trial" !

 

I wouldn't vote for anyone that doesn't firmly believe in the reduction in size and scope of the state. Everyone else is the same.

Why bother voting anyway? The US government rigs elections all over the world, what makes you think they don't rig US elections?

 

If Ron Paul supporters who will not support the GOP nominee are Liberals, then
WHO ARE THESE:

 

It's a given that come november either candidate will have somewhere near 50% of the support, something the staunch neo-cons fail to acknowledge.

The key to victory is how many independent and obama voters the candidate sway. On that front, Paul does much better than any of the other republican candidates.

 

So you would support Welfare for your friend living in the south side of Chicago for example?

Judges run the country? (*)(*)(*)(*), time for me to become a judge.

Yep. Bush started Gitmo and both wars, Obama continued them.

Bush signed Medicare Part D and Obama pushed for Obamacare.

Both were all for bailouts.

What differences do you see other than Fox news told you so?

Yes, because those differences are HUGE.

 

What in hell are you talking about?

The subject is about Paul supporters who have said they refuse to support the GOP nominee if Paul isn't elected.

Exactly what are you smoking?

 

You are very wrong, Independents and many Republicans won't support Paul because of his rants. He spends many times telling what he is against, yet very little on what he is FOR, what would President Paul support? That isn't known, we had the same from the Obama camp in 2008, well we have all found out what he was for afterwards. Before I would even consider votting for him, I want to know what he will do, not what he is against. Present a plan to look over first. so far he hasn't!

As stated for anyone to say if my candidate doesn't win I won't vote or write in a name, you would be guilty if Obama wins another election. You should just cast your vote his way and get used to handing down a bankrupt, freedomless socirey to all future generations!

 

Which is the Con Ron Paul supporters are engaged in.It's Ron Paul
or nobody.That's not a GOP mindset.In fact,that is exactly why Ron Paul
has no business running as a Republican.
It was a con from the get-go.An easy way for Paul to establish
an audience w/o the added cost of going 3rd party.

 

So the GOP is a hive mind?

Is the GOP the borg?

 

No because someone living in the US and a foreign country are not the same thing.

Have you even bothered to think about it for even a second?

How did the government get the right to take your property? Liberal judges on the Supreme Court

Who will decide Obamacare? Supreme Court

Who is blocking immigration law? Liberal judges.

Where have you been living?

Wrong again. Al Queada and the Taliban began the war in Afghanistan. Iraq began after violating 17 UN resolutions. Try again.

LOL Not even close to being the same thing. Bush NEVER mandated health care insurance. This really has to be explained to you?

In massively disproportionate numbers. Nice try.

Spoken like a liberal. The evil Fox News. LOL

Obama is against illegal immigration control.

He wants to mandate Health Care

He wants to spend our way out of debt

He wants higher taxes on job creators

He puts in liberal judges

He wants to keep voting open to fraud by denying voter ID checks

Unbelievable this has to be explained to you.

Yes they are. The stupidity of your claims is not thinking before posting.

You still haven't answered the question. Do you really believe liberal judges and conservative judges are the same?

 

Totally agree.


All you Ron Paul supporters who claim the GOP and Obama are the same: So why is Ron Paul running as a Republican? Answer that one.

 

Progressive? In what way? :-S

Really the language of the right is really funny. That you tell progressive to a liberal ok. But to a Conservative is stupid.

 

We are talking about principles here. Welfare at its core is the idea that an entity is unable to care for itself and needs support. This manifests itself in both foriegn aid and domestic welfare. You either support it or are against it. I support Israel 100% and feel that its time for Israel to grow up and be a big country and fight its own fights. You seem to think Israel is unable to do this and would rather give them an allowance for doing their yearly chores of providing the US inteligence and supporting our bases.

Welfare is bad no matter who gets it.

What exactly are you talking about? If its Emminent domain the fifth ammendment to the Constitution allows that.

This will be decided long before the election.

Well, some would say the law is blocking the immigration debate. Its not exactly cut and dry legally. My opinions on it aside of course.

Oh? I thought a bunch of Saudi's flew planes into the WTC and we reacted by invading Afghanistan instead of Saudi Arabia.

What UN resolutions did Iraq violate? I seem to remember something about finding no WMD's in Iraq...were some of those "violated" resolutions about WMD's?!?!

Medicare is socialized medicine and so is Obamacare. The mandate is what you are hanging your hat on?

Oh?! So it doesn't matter if you support bailouts or not, just how BIG of a bailout you support?

He wants the hispanic vote....Gingrich feels the same way. Whats your point?

Romney started it.

So did Bush.

Yep

He is a liberal, what did you expect?

I don't exactly support "show me your papers" type laws either.

You are so cute when you are angry.

Depends on the judges, did you have some specifically in mind?

 

Then you must be against any state receiving any money since you define welfare as being a recipient of money from the government.

Sorry, its not that cut and dry.

OMG I can't believe you are this uninformed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/23/AR2005062300783.html

The Supreme Court ruled yesterday that local governments may force property owners to sell out and make way for private economic development when officials decide it would benefit the public, even if the property is not blighted and the new project's success is not guaranteed.

How in God's name did you not know about this???

Does that change the fact the COURT will decide it? Nope.

Wake up to reality. The courts are holding back laws passed by state legislatures just as I said.

None of your excuses change the fact the courts are deciding laws just as I said they are.

Saudis who were Al Queada. And they weren't all Saudis were they genius.

And Al Queada was in Afghanistan supported by the Taliban. Are you really this naive of basic facts?

Spoken like a liberal.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect2.html

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_did_find_iraq_wmd_AYiLgNbw7pDf7AZ3RO9qnM

There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq after all.

The massive cache of almost 400,000 Iraq war documents released by the WikiLeaks Web site revealed that small amounts of chemical weapons were found in Iraq and continued to surface for years after the 2003 US invasion, Wired magazine reported.

The documents showed that US troops continued to find chemical weapons and labs for years after the invasion, including remnants of Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons arsenal -- most of which had been destroyed following the Gulf War.

In August 2004, American troops were able to buy containers from locals of what they thought was liquid sulfur mustard, a blister agent, the documents revealed. The chemicals were triple-sealed and taken to a secure site.

Also in 2004, troops discovered a chemical lab in a house in Fallujah during a battle with insurgents. A chemical cache was also found in the city.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_did_find_iraq_wmd_AYiLgNbw7pDf7AZ3RO9qnM#ixzz1iKVC9r8h



Do you always soak up liberal propaganda this easily?

WRONG. Obamacare FORCES people to buy insurance. How can you be this off and claim to be informed?

I was against any and all bailouts as well. That doesn't mean I'm not smart enough to see the difference between billions one president spent and TRILLIONS spent by another.

Gingrich has never said he wants to stop the immigration laws passed by Arizona and other states like Obama. You laughably fail in your comparison

What are you 5? Not at a federal level.

And Hilary was the first to propose it. Another Fail in basic facts by you.

Total lie. Did we forget about the BUSH tax cuts? Bush didn't spend 1/5th the amount of stimulus money Obama has. Another FAIL at comparison.

THATS THE POINT GENIUS. LIBERALS PUT IN LIBERAL JUDGES. CONSERVATIVES DONT.

One more thing you and Obama have in common.

Your ignorance on the subject certainly isn't.

In general. Stop ducking the question like a coward and answer it.

 

Are we talking about the same free market? You know the one that abolishes corporate regulations or the same free trade that allows American corporations to move their factories to third world countries. Yeah, you must be right, corporations hate those kind of things.

Give me an example of this " state control" that Obama supports. There has been nothing that Obama has done that didn't support a corporation or an industry. Don't let the corporate masters fool you, they love both Ron Paul and Obama. If you look at the diffrences between the two, they are issues that corporations could give a rat's butt about, like civil liberites and stuff.

 

I'm not left or right, I'm an independent that will vote for Ron Paul. As far as I'm concerned, Romney and Gingrich are just as bad, probably worse, than Obama is. They're all big government, corporatist, authoritarian neocons. Ron Paul or bust.

 

Preach on brotha!

 

Yep, States can tax their residents to fund their government...no need for Federal support.

OMG, its from 2005. Sorry I forgot about a 7 year old story.

No Republican in the field can change the ruling with an appointment. Why bring it up?

So you support legislating from the bench...just not when its liberal legislation?

The vast majority were Saudi's, 15 of the 19 were Saudi's the rest were from UAE, Egypt and Lebanon.

Why didn't we invade those countries who obviously "harbor terrorists"?

Small amounts of them? Oh dear!

Most of which had been destroyed following the Gulf War?!?! Say it aint so!

They THOUGHT it was mustard gas? Well (*)(*)(*)(*) that is proof positive right there.

How big was this chemical cache?

Right it does, but that does not change the fact that Medicare is socialized medicine.

Not sure I would call that "smart".

No he hasn't. He said however that he would not deport illegals who have been living here for years. He want's that Hispanic vote just like Obama. Newt is a softie on immigration.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/284245/gingrich-and-immigration-thomas-sowell

What does the level matter? Romney proposed a MANDATE and passed it. Sure States rights are awesome, but he doesn't have a leg to stand on in opposition to a Mandate.

He approved a bailout. That at its core is trying to "spend your way out of debt". Get a clue.

They put in conservative judges right?! Both impose their will on the people via legislating from the bench. Pick your poison I suppose.

You and the founders would not get along I imagine.

lol.

That isn't a general question. Be specific. Or are all liberal judges the same?