Roundtable: Obama Worst President since WWII?

Not if you look at his record on economy.
But if one is a tRUMPer, all presidents are the worst in history.
tRUMP the cry baby is the best.

I wonder how many times as a kid, he cried when the other team scored a point and took the ball, not his ball, but said it was and went home with it? Likely a daily event with tRUMP.

 

Exposing Obama once again struck a nerve I see.

 

You realize your link has Bush higher than Obama? You really believe that poll?

I like Bush, but let's be real here...

 

Not until the partisan parasite is removed!

 

Exposing Obama as what ?
He inherited the worse economic conditions ever by a President. The orange crush and his “all white” supporters will do and say anything to install their apartheid Govt.

 

Nixon was president when I was born but I don’t remember anything about him or Ford. I remember Carter, gas lines,hostages, Iran, threat of the bomb. It seemed like the world got a whole lot better when Reagan got elected but I was only 10 at the time. Not that I thought carter had bad juju, just more of a vagina than anything.
I went to war under Bush sr, although I had the utmost of confidence in him as my CiC, I didn’t care for his world view and nafta sealed the deal for me. I survived Clinton, in fact were some good years for me. The border patrol was in full force under Clinton, I haven’t seen that many raids since. He has some pretty crappy taste in women though. W was just too much war for me. Don’t get me wrong, as a army combat veteran, i feel it is good to have people who have seen combat training the new guys, but that was just too much. He wanted to finish off Saddam for his dad and I didn’t feel that was necessary.
Obama was 8 years of the barfing diarrhea flu complete with room spinning night sweats, a healthy case of crabs, the clap, hemorrhoids, gout, ingrown toenails and a cheap tequila hangover all rolled into one. I suspended my tradition of watching fireworks from my boat on big bear lake for 7 if his 8 years. Only his first year did I go but that is when it hit me. I’m glad that skid mark is out of the White House, I wonder if they are still trying to get the smell out.
Now on to trump, harsh, brash, blunt, rude, but I love the guy faults and all.
It took a carter to give us a Reagan, it took an Obama (blech) to give us a trump.

 

His really bad one was the price controls that contributed to an 18% prime interest rate. I also was not fond of giving away the Canal Zone.

 

Not even close. 3 economic panics in the 19th century, the Knickerbocker Crisis, The Great Depression, The 1973 recession all made the 2007 recession look like great times.

 

Dreaming ? Why not include the Indian uprisings ? Up is down, down is up with the 8 th grade snowflake president wannabe who whines more then a cat in heat. He could not negotiate his way out of a paper bag. He just raised the deficit by a factor of two in so called good times.....and no infrastructure. President whiner can’t walk and chew gum.

 

"Oh, yeah!
Well, what about ...?"
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Trump bum kissers now must contrive their desperate, phony diversions, but they may as well stick with Trump's crackpot fake claim regard the popular prior president's nativity.

 

During my lifetime...14 different people, starting with FDR, have held the office of president of the United States. That is about 1/3 of all the presidents who have ever served in that office.

By far...Trump is the worst ever among the ones I remember.

From what I have learned in various history classes...Trump is by far the worst ever.

The people continuing to support this disgusting abomination ought to be ashamed of themselves. But apparently most doing that are not intelligent enough to be ashamed.

 

I have no reason to falsely promote or denigrate any prior presidents. I accept the empirical data.

Bush, on average, was probably more popular than his successor during his tenure. His disastrous, falsely-predicated war in Iraq and financial collapse at the end of eight years of his economic policies resulted in his dismal final assessment, with hindsight, dropping dramatically:

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"

12/11-14/08 APPROVE:30% // DISAPPROVE: 68%

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm

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"Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president?"

1/17-19/17 APPROVE: 59% // DISAPPROVE: 37%

https://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job1.htm​

Trump's numbers could still rise or fall dramatically, but, thus far, they consistently stink:

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as president?"

http://pollingreport.com/djt_job1.htm​

 

Trump is so polarizing, there is nothing he could ever do to get about 55%.

If you can think of anything, name it, but at the current rate, hes got Democrats celebrating their abortions and defending illegal immigrants accused of murder.

 

I've said before, that history will remember Obama as the first black president- and nothing more.

 

False claims. Democrats are not celebrating abortions or defending murderers. Such hyperbolic nonsense is not conducive to rational discourse.

It's preferable to adhere to truth.

 

Yes, and he pretty much openly did most of those things WHILE the lock step leftist allied Mainstream Media lied, spun, covered, and cheered him for those activities.

 

I lived through the 1973 recession and it was a cake walk compared to 2007. 2007 was a depression.

 

Yeah...that is what you have said.

As though what you have said means anything!

It is the opinion of many that history will judge former president Obama to be head-and-shoulders above the abomination Trump.

 

Trump would have a much better rating and Obama would have been much worse due to the unfair press.

The media were Obama's butt kissers. Obama abused his power. Obama used the IRS to target the Tea Party. We knew this in 2010, yet the media didn't hold him accountable so it got even worse by 2016, when he used the CIA, FBI, NSA, and the Treasury Department Financial Crimes Division to spy on and investigate the opposition party candidate Donald Trump.

That kind of tyranny doesn't bother you much if practiced by Obama, would it bother you if Trump did it?

 

But to Trump-haters, Hitler was head and shoulders above Trump. Opinion is more of a statement about the man who expresses it than the person he castes doubt on.
Most presidents are not what they pretend to be- especially those who cultivate the image of a "nice guy". One would have to be extremely naive to think that a genuine "nice guy" would be tough enough for that job- but they know that is what the public wants to see, and what they will buy.

JFK's father Joe told him that in politics- it doesn't matter what you are; it's only what people think you are that matters. Obama was nothing like the image he portrayed; most people just aren't perceptive enough to see past the facade. Trump on the other hand- is transparent about his identity. Some people find that a refreshing change, some hate it. However many people prefer a comfortable lie to a less comfortable truth- and that explains the way in which someone like HRC could rise to the position of a presidential candidate, or someone like Obama could pull the wool over so many eyes. People simply chose to believe what they wanted to believe, and that was the "cultivated" image..... not at all the real person.

 

He's wrong. Obama will be remembered as a failed leader with failed policies that were undermined and overturned by Trump.

Most of all, Obama will be remembered for his spying on journalists, attacking American citizens of the Tea Party and rigging the 2012 election by abusing the powers of the IRS, and trying to rig the 2016 election by abusing the counterintelligence programs designed for terrorists by targeting the Trump campaign. When that failed, he attempted a coup by abusing the powers of the FBI, DOJ, CI . NSA and DNI. He'll be known for TREASON AND #SPYGATE.

 

Bet me I cant provide examples.

https://www.lifenews.com/2018/11/14...-abortion-party-to-celebrate-their-abortions/

Also, dont know if you missed my other thread, but illegals accused of murder were released despite ICE retainer requests. Now they're trying to find them again.

Let's debate this, shall we.

 

Hitler was more intelligent and a much better speaker than Trump. I doubt he was a worse human being.

In any case, Trump is a classless ignoramus...who's day job should be "pimp" not president.

 

Great start!

WHO is wrong?

I mentioned that it "is the opinion of many."

You ought at least start your half-assed posts reasonably.

Both of us are just guessing. My guess, though, is that former president Obama will be remembered favorably by history...not one of the greats, but a decent president.

My guess is that Trump will be remembered by history as a disgusting accident...a classless, ignorant, boor.

This part of your post is....

 

Phony excuse.

If Obama had spouted crap about a president being foreign-born, lied about releasing his tax returns, boasted that his celebrity licensed his to grab women by the p*ssy, had a fixer to pay off bimbos with whom he rutted behind the backs of trophy wives, spouted crackpot nonsense concerning millions of invisible people all voting against him, railed bout imaginary prayer rugs and duct-taped women aplenty at the border, etc., etc., etc., his insipid behavior would have been reported as well.

Trump owes his presidency to the unprecedented amount of free coverage the media accorded him as a reality tv performer - an advantage his Republican opponents for the nomination complained about vociferously.

Facts are not partisan, although hyper-partisans need to pretend they are.