Russians march to remember slain opposition leader Nemtsov

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh pleeeeease... as soon as you don't like something it's fake :rolleyes:

     
  2. MrFirst

    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    Russians here have already told you what is not fake. These so-called politicians are zero ones. They have a huge support in western media and zero support in Russian society.

    And, of course, you can paint pink pictures of millions of intimidated Russians which hope and wait for some Kara-Murza, or somebody like Yeltsin's boy Nemtsov, who would come and bring them a shining freedom - right from the Capitol on Pennsylvania Avenue.

    But listen to me. The NYT and others are lying to you. That will never happen.
     
  3. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so anonymous Russian on the internet, likely employed by the Kremlin is telling me to ignore a highly regarded source like the NYT and believe him instead, do you realise how nutty what you are suggesting sounds?
     
  4. MrFirst

    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    Employed by Kremlin? So, you believe that Kremlin cares about this forum? Oh, my god...
     
  5. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you're anonymous??? maybe you work for the tooth fairy?

     
  6. MrFirst

    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    Can't help you, sorry.

    Russian don't have tooth fairy. Taking away old teeth is a mice's business here. No competition, no option.
     
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    Hmm, what Pogroms did the USA do to Jews, like in Russia?

    I can only think of one event that you'd call an anti-Jewish Pogrom in the USA, and that's the Crown Heights Riots, but that clearly wasn't done by typical Americans, it was done clearly by Black-Caribbean's.
     
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    Jewish Pogroms in Russia ended in 1922. Jews were discriminated in USSR to some degree -- but less then African Americans and Native Americans in USA.
     
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    They only know what the brainwashing networks want them to know. Will the real Vlatimir Putin stand up?

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    Oh for heaven's sake they keep trying to find something on Vladimir Putin and instead they came across all these world leaders with money stashed away... while the closest they could get to Putin was his Cellist, so naturally they tried to make a big thing of it while ignoring all the rest. Unbelievable!

    They need to stick their heads in the sand ...because that's where it belongs. What a bunch of fools.


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  11. Ninian

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    All right, looks like a legit proof that he posesses unexpectedly big amount of money.

    I still highly doubt, that acts of RF's government are dictated by greed or purely criminal intent. They deliberately worked against Federation's citizens for sixteen years, in my opinion. That rather gives me impression that they serve interests of foreigners, than their own. Otherwise they might have bothered securing safe future for the country, not turned it into geopolitical scarecrow.
     
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    That can count like an insult, unless in Autralia being bought by state is a normal, regular thing. Which I doubt.

    And speaking of media - they lie. They aways do, it's their job. They do not pass information between people, they adjust it to serve needs of their employers of sponsors, most commonly - the state in which this media enterpise is located.

    Thus, whenever you deal with media, if you find something that interests you, recheck it yourself, in various sources - including the sources from country where thing of interest has happened. They may be closer to truth, than foreign media, depending on scale and significance of event.
     
  13. Ninian

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    You had such acts against the negros and remaining native population, detained japanese citizens of USA during the WWII in internment camps.

    Jews are not the only group opressed in the world. And yes, we too do not do such things anymore. But if you wish to keep rolling back in history, picking juicy slaughters and making a competition 'on whose birthland more people murdered each other in funny way or for funny reasons' - we may create a separate thread for that.




    Note to self: next time to gather all replies in one post for efficiency. Hm.
     
  14. litwin

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    well , you county ulus of juchi has always been an afra- asian country with 0 connecton to rus or europe. from day when khan Juchi created Moscow as his tax - station , and RPC as a bank and tax - department.

    his what happens in Europe in the similar (way lesser) situation
    [video=youtube;5dRIiJqDM4M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dRIiJqDM4M[/video]
    [video=youtube;LKADLvveXaM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKADLvveXaM[/video]
     
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    I strongly advice you to abandon that attitude and dispose of these insults.
     
  16. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    a total BS:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors'_plot

    dont want to talk about koba- Sralin´s plans of deportation all jews in Siberia in 50th.
     
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    Do not mix the acts of spontageous civil violence towards specific ethnic group and actions of government towards specific individuals. Not to mention that Joseph Stalin - attitude does not affects the correct grammar form of individual's name, nor makes their criminal alias automatically known to members of discussion - was a dictator, and acted as one. His actions cannot be considered being equal to attitude of people who lived in Soviet state during his presence in various forms of leading administrative seat of country.
     
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    That's true, however considering I come from Ellis Island immigrants who came to the United States in the turn of the 20th century, I don't see why I should be labeled for that.
     
  19. Ninian

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    Why should anybody in modern day Rossian Federation being labelled for actions of people who lived almost a century ago, then?
     
  20. litwin

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    " spontageous civil violence" look like you know nothing about ulus of juchi pogrom institution ,

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    Same word, different meaning. Again, actions against ethnic, and not individuals. And - it has been in twenties. So it does not goes against CCitizen's statement.

    Second - country you speak about named Rossian Empire.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Российская_империя

    Use correct terminology in discussions, and do not offend history by mocking it.
     
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    ??? Russian society more humane? Funny you say that, maybe you ask all the millions dead from the last 100 yrs or so, I'm sure they'll tell you different.
     
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    Could you, please, use English, and quotes, so we can understand what you refer to, who you adress, and what the do you mean, please?
     
  24. litwin

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    you was very close to renamed ulus of juchi (a parallel name Muscovy) to the 3 Rome, should we in this case call you guys for Romans?
     
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    You really wish to have that conversation?
     

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