Same-sex marriage will not change a single day-to-dy thing for Americans

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  1. PTPLauthor

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    Did I say the wedding? No. I said the reception. In my experience, the cake is delivered to the venue of the reception and not to the venue of the ceremony, which are usually separate venues to provide for dancing, eating, and since this is Wisconsin, imbibing of alcoholic beverages. There are rare exceptions here of outdoor weddings in the three weeks we have of summer, but for those that I have seen, the food-service area was separate from the area where the ceremony was held.

    Because a public business cannot deny service based on appearances.

    Your original premise was about a Kosher deli catering a gay wedding. I am not a Talmudic scholar, nor do I have a rabbi handy, but I do not believe that a kosher foodstuff becomes not so if it is intended to be consumed by non-Kosher people. Thus, there is no chance the deli would violate its standing of being Kosher.

    You spelled discrimination wrong and meant conscience. But yes, that is how discrimination laws have been applied by the courts, and that assertion has been supported by several of the Conservative-leaning justices on the US Supreme Court.

    I did not change the conditions. You asked how it would be so, and I answered, relying on logic and the fact that rulings of this matter have been consistently applied for at least the past fifty years. A person's religion does not get to dictate public policy. Likewise, if someone does not wish to serve those they do not agree with, they can refuse to have a business open to the public and only take appointments.
     
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    Time? How much time? Keep it up Chicken Little.
     
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    Chicken Little? It's ALREADY HAPPENING. Sticking your head in the sand and ignoring it does not change that fact. What makes you think it's not going to happen everywhere else that these perverts are pushing their morally repugnant agenda?
     
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    Let me know what I don't know about what's happening in my own community chicken little> Yea that's your new name LOL
     
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    This is the group we are supposed to take seriously as they argue that they are "just like everyone else" ??!
     
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    Nobody is forcing you to do a damned thing. You think gay marriage is wrong already so what's going to change?
     
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    Well of course. They're just like us. All they want is the acceptance to be able to marry the person they love...

    Oh and of course pass out literature on not getting cum in your mouth, rimming ass, (*)(*)(*)(*) play and fisting.... documents that OUR TAX DOLLARS went to help fund.

    Isn't that ruse called equality wonderful.

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    Really? They're not making us send our children to schools which force them into bathrooms and lockerrooms with people of the opposite sex?

    They're not indoctrinating our children while telling us we have no right to be informed on the subject matter or opt our children out of the material?
     
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    This is a place where we are supposed to be discussing issues in a rational, respectful and informative manner. IT IS NOT for hysterical, unstable bigots to spread lies, fear and propaganda. IT IS NOT a platform for flame baiting and trolling. Welcome to my not so exclusive ignore club. I urge all others who are interested in a serious debate to do so as well.
     
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    I'm not the one defending sick (*)(*)(*)(*)s from passing that (*)(*)(*)(*) out to children in middle and high school.

    I'm also not the one who is incapable of defending their position.

    Your willful ignorance on the subject doesn't change the reality of the situation.

    ETA: Notice he doesn't attempt to refute anything I stated. He simply attacked me. Welcome to the homosexual agenda folks.
     
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    You realize there are gay people on this forum right? The vast majority of gay people don't do anything of what you just said. Just like the vast majority of Christians don't stone others to death for wearing mixed cloths. Painting a broad brush on 5% of society does you no favors.
     
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    If you can show me where I said ALL homosexuals do these things I'll be happy to amend it. But you won't find that.

    I'm not ignorant enough to think that 100% of ANY group is going to fall under one category.

    However, the amount of numbers of homosexuals that support this type of behavior, or more specifically do not condemn it, is shockingly high. As evidenced by NOT ONE SINGLE HOMOSEXUAL or even a homosexual advocate in this thread stating that passing that literature out to middle and high school students was wrong. They simply attempted to deflect, defend and excuse the responsibility for these activities.

    It's just like not every homosexual has AIDS. However, homosexuals are 44x more likely to contract AIDS/HIV than their heterosexual counterparts. While that doesn't mean every single one of them has AIDS, it most certainly is a statistically significant number and needs to be addressed and considered when making policy decisions. Just like the rate of child molestation by those who engage in homosexual behavior. It is EXCEEDINGLY high when compared to their total % of the population and compared to their heterosexual counterparts. Does this mean that all homosexuals are going to molest children? Of course not, but the numbers are most certainly statistically significant and the issue needs to be addressed and considered when making policy decisions.
     
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    They do get embarrassed by their groups behavior some times.
    (They won't address it of course, they will just say "can we all be rational and above this", etc....)
     
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    Although they continue to vehemently deny any of the events even occured, I suspect they all support such indoctrination of schoolchildren.
     
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    The US was stronger when society was guided by straight people, and the whole world was under the US control because this nation respected God and His commandments.

    But, since homosexuals started to gain control in the government and society, the blessings have disappeared. We have today, a country that depends of other countries to survive, and worst, even Russia is challenging the future of the US not with war but simply by the cut of any economic trade.

    Unfortunately, many key nations, like China or India can follow that initiative and the US is done.

    Everything started when gays came out of their closets and demanded "rights".

    Besides this aspect related to religion, homosexuality doesn't bring anything beneficial to our society, and on the contrary, homosexuals are the biggest carriers of sexual diseases.

    Then, the Supreme Court is dead wrong when assumes that gay marriage causes no harm, because homosexuality is like a computer virus, and is contagious if no prevention is at hand.
     
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    Some posts are just too bizarre to know how to respond. Gays are in control of government? Really. You should talk to someone about that.:eyepopping::eyepopping::eyepopping::eyepopping:
     
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    Spiritual blessings for a world empire, from the Christian angle, is a contradictory thing. Christians are not supposed to be chasing worldy boons.

    Aside from that, Gay people have been around ever since- in the least- the Greeks. While their are gay people in many organizations and institutions, there is no gay institution of power or influence that controls overall society. You might as well say having handicapped parking is a violation of your freedom to park wherever you want and that laws protecting them is a signal that handicapped people are taking over the country/world.
     
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    What "policy decisions" need to be addressed because some members of your population have AIDS? I do hope you're applying the same criteria to the growing number of heterosexuals with AIDS.

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    Suspect all you want; otherwise you'll need to provide some evidence for your assertion. By the way, in 2010 25% of new infections were heterosexual-and 66% of those infected were women. http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/hivfactsheets/todaysepidemic-508.pdf
     
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    Oh dear. So much fail in so many words. So, tell us when was this golden age of gay-free America? Enquiring minds need to know. I daresay you have the data at your fingertips. I'll wait...
     
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    It is moral content of America that is affected. Not personal harm or standing. This is the false propaganda of the radical gay lobby.
     
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    So? You are willing to accept the 'edicts' of courts over the will of the people and law that is not constititional except as defined by others. i.e. the courts as a legislative branch of government? You really do not know what is going on, IMHO.
     
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    Uhhhh yeah here is your evidence and expounding upon what your evidence was claiming.

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/Newsroom/msmpressrelease.html

    The data, presented at CDC's 2010 National STD Prevention Conference, finds that the rate of new HIV diagnoses among men who have sex with men (MSM) is more than 44 times that of other men and more than 40 times that of women.

    The range was 522-989 cases of new HIV diagnoses per 100,000 MSM vs. 12 per 100,000 other men and 13 per 100,000 women.

    The rate of primary and secondary syphilis among MSM is more than 46 times that of other men and more than 71 times that of women, the analysis says. The range was 91-173 cases per 100,000 MSM vs. 2 per 100,000 other men and 1 per 100,000 women.

    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/index.html

    •In 2010, MSM accounted for 63% of estimated new HIV infections in the United States and 78% of infections among all newly infected men. From 2008 to 2010, new HIV infections increased 22% among young (aged 13-24) MSM and 12% among MSM overall.
     
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    The post is about what gay marriage will change. This is off topic unless you can explain what is has to do with marriage equality. I suspect that you know that it has NOTHING to do with equality. It just present another opportunity to paint gays in a bad light
     
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    But...but...two men sucking each others dicks is...weird so - so it should be illegal! Becau - well, just - because! It makes me feel unsure about my orienta - uh, I mean, it's icky! I don't want to see none of it! Damn queers.
     
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    You do realize that was in response to what the other guy said right?
     

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