Senator Bob Graham and 9/11

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  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    This topic needs its own thread.

    I posted this recently:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=451095&page=2&p=1066051185#post1066051185

    A Senator Just Went on 60 Minutes Claiming the 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US”

    “Those twenty-eight pages tell a story that has been completely removed from the 9/11 Report” Congressman Stephen Lynch, one of the few who actually read the classified 28 pages

    “I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States” - Senator Bob Graham, co-chair of the House Joint Inquiry into 9/11

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/senator-60-minutes-911-attackers-had-support-us/
     
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    The Obama administration is currently responsible for covering up 9/11 as of course was the prior Bush administration.

    Obama of Arabia
    By Kristen Breitweiser (one of the Jersey Girls)

    Why does President Obama think it's okay for 15 Arabs (and four of their friends) to come into our country, hijack our planes, crash them into our buildings, and brutally kill 3,000 innocent people?

    Because those 15 Arabs were Saudis, that's why. And, Saudis are special. Saudis are apparently allowed to get away with murder -- or at least the financing of it.

    I am a 9/11 widow. My husband Ron was killed while he was working at his desk for Fiduciary Trust Company on the 94th floor of Tower 2. Ron was 39 years old, I was 30, and our daughter was two. I watched the horror unfold on live worldwide television as I stood in my kitchen speaking to Ron. Moments later, I watched Flight 175 slice into his building, exactly where he stood on the other end of the line talking to me.

    ... skipping

    There are 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry of Congress (an investigation into the U.S. government intelligence failures prior to 9/11) that have remained classified and hidden away from the American public by both the Bush and Obama Administrations. These 28 pages allegedly prove that the Saudis had a controlling hand in funding the 9/11 attacks that killed 3,000 innocent people.

    Now, it's more than fair to say that if these 28 pages blamed the Iraqis or the Iranians for financing the 9/11 attacks, they would have been released years ago. Unfortunately, since the 28 pages allegedly implicate the Saudis, they're likely to remain secret and kept away from the American public forever.

    Knowing that evidence of your husband's murder is being specifically withheld from you by the president -- with the sole intent to protect the terrorists and their financial backers -- is not something any American should ever have to tolerate.

    Unfortunately, the 28 pages aren't the only example of the U.S. government protecting the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) to the detriment of the 9/11 families.

    Read the rest ....

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristen-breitweiser/obama-of-arabia_b_9557136.html
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, I saw that on 60 Minutes last night. It is good to hear Graham speaking out on this issue. The public has been so misinformed over the years.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    That's an understatement, 9/11 has been and is currently being covered up by the US government because not only do they want to protect the real criminals but 9/11 is the gift that keeps on giving. $trillions have been spent based on the OCT to line the pockets of the MIC and the 9/11 OCT provided the perfect excuse to wage the fake permanent war on terror.
     
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    Is Bob Graham a terrifying so-called "truther", of the kind that are characterized as demented in many forums, including this one? It certainly seems so. But the difference between Bob Graham and most "truthers" and all the OCT defenders is that undeniably, Graham is in a position to know.

    “I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States” - Senator Bob Graham, co-chair of the House Joint Inquiry into 9/11

    Former Sen. Bob Graham hopes '60 Minutes' report will help get secret 9/11 records released

    Excerpt ...

    The former Florida governor appeared on the CBS program to talk about 28 pages of a congressional report on 9/11 that has remained secret for 13 years. Graham was chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee and co-chairman of a joint congressional commission that investigated the attacks and wrote the full 838-page report. He and several other commission members are pushing for release of the 28 pages that were classified.

    "People would be surprised by the information," Graham said.

    On Monday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi joined the fight to open the records with a call for disclosure. Other former senators who served on the commission have also urged the FBI and the president to open the records.

    Graham says the report discloses incidents where high-ranking Saudi officials appeared to be helping some of the hijackers who spoke no English and had no visible means of support but were able to organize the most sophisticated terrorist attacks on American soil.

    The commission's official report said the hijackers acted on their own without help. But the report omitted a 28-page segment dealing with the FBI's investigation of Saudi involvement. The report entitled "specific sources of foreign support for hijackers" was withheld under President George W. Bush's administration and President Barack Obama has taken no action despite repeated requests from Graham and other members of the joint commission.

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...nutes-report-will-help-get-secret-911/2272765

    BTW, to be sure, those classified 28 pages are still part of the OCT, so are thousands of other classified 9/11 documents/evidence. The 9/11 coverup continues and make no mistake, it is a massive coverup, even those in positions to know agree. They must all be "truthers" then.
     
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    Actual "60 Minutes" segments:

    [video=youtube;W8EfFNXJWPs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8EfFNXJWPs&feature=youtu.be[/video]

    [video=youtube;roIN0P-yyBk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roIN0P-yyBk&feature=youtu.be[/video]
     
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    LOL at 60 minutes and the Senator for sources...

    Sunday night CBS "60 Minutes" (the same show whose executive producer admitted editing their story on Gennifer Flowers to discredit her and help Bill Clinton win the White House) tried to shift the blame for 9-11 onto Saudi Arabia (after helping put the blame first on Afghanistan and later Iraq).

    But Saudi Arabia did not have their agents arrested at the scene after being seen cheering and dancing as the towers came down; Israel did. And Saudi Arabia didn't have a motive to commit 9-11; Israel (and the US) did.

    CBS did not mention the arrested Mossad agents, or the numerous scientists and engineers who insist the World Trade Center, especially building 7, were brought down in controlled demolitions.

    You need to make this article go viral all over the net, or we are going to see another war started against an innocent nation.

    Debunking the "The Saudis did 9-11" nonsense!
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/debunksaudis.php#axzz45eGr945T
     
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    Why don't one of you ask Bob Graham if he believes in controlled demolition or if he is just interested in the possible coverup of Saudi financing ... I don't think he's a hardcore truther but you love to use him to further your theories ... has he ever made any mention of controlled demo or space beams? ...
     
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    And why would anyone want to do that? I think most intelligent people believe controlled demolitions work, don't you? Perhaps not since you asked. You should contact CDI and ask them why they're in business since you don't believe in CDs.

    I agree, he is a politician after all and truth and politics are generally incompatible. However, I have a feeling he's not lying about exposing the Saudi 9/11 connection since he's quite openly vocal about it.

    I don't have any theories to "further", the evidence and the facts speak for themselves. Bob Graham speaks for himself, not for me, trust me on this. I don't believe he knows I exist and I never met the guy personally.

    No but I think he said something about that shineboxes are just like sponges, they just sit there and suck up everything they're fed by the US government and never ask any questions.
     
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    Like I said it's all part of the OCT but it was "classified" for a reason. IMO the US, Israel, the Saudis and other nations all benefited from 9/11 in many different ways. 9/11 was the gift that keeps on giving.
     
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    I have plenty of questions for the US Gov and have written reps many times and gotten some/some lame answers ... but no questions about 9/11 but I may ask about Sen Graham's pursuit about the Saudi connection ... that's a valid question ...

    So. if you want to run with Graham's angle, I believe you think it was a Saudi financed op and that controlled demo and actual US on the ground directing this massive space beam theory is off the table? ...
     
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    I have yet to see one. I would be very interested if you actually have anything adult to ask. Feel free to post a question that makes sense or post a link to one of your alleged questions. Thanks.

    That's shocking considering your lame posts.

    Yeah I said that often, perhaps you missed it. Oh wait it's in this thread.

    Absolutely. So when do you figure some of us can expect you to do that? Anytime soon?

    I have no clue what Graham's "angle" is. If you ever read Kevin Ryan's angle on it, he's certainly no angel. Remember he's a politician after all, quite mainstream. Of wait, who am I telling this to?

    You do, do you? You also believe the OCT, so much for your belief system.
     
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    So the Saudis may have financed 9/11? That isn't news, as Jihadi ideology sprang from the Wahhabis. Was not UBL a Saudi national? Whoops!

    I'll wait for the release before jumping to conclusions, and I've signed the White House petition in order to speed up the process (hopefully). The judgement of a partisan senator means nothing to me as he is just playing the political game.
     
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    Another 28 pages thread. Oh boy.

    (again) we already have a pretty good idea what are in those 28 pages; details of the CIA plan to use Saudi Intelligence officer Omar al-Bayoumi to recruit Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi as CIA informants inside al Qaeda while they were in California.
     
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    Yeah, so boring and meaningless for you, just like everything about 9/11, eh?

    Again? Yeah 9/11 gets redundant, it's a waste of time for you. I mean 3,000 innocent people dead give or take, massive destruction in one of the world's biggest and most important cities, an endless war under pretext of 9/11 that massacred a few hundred thousand more innocent men, women and children, really boring stuff.

    Good, so you know via osmosis or you read them or you have a crystal ball. Ok run along then, nothing for you here.

    Some of the rest of us human beings care and know we've been fed all sorts of lies and that they've been covering up 9/11 since 9/11 and likely before. So we have this need to discuss it and expose the lies and coverups, it's just one of those things some human beings do who have a sense of humanity. Those 28 pages are just a tiny tip of the iceberg but they are important to some of us nevertheless, and much more so to the 9/11 families who have NEVER seen any kind of justice and have only been exposed to every kind of injustice.
     
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    Yes, it had to be rolled out again for some more feigned outrage.
     
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    To what end Bob? The 9/11 "truth movement", as tragically ironic as the name is, has distracted the world for the last 10+ years with myths of controlled demolition, no planes, missiles, fake hijackers etc etc etc. The truth is in those 28 pages and more. The truth that elements of the CIA should be in prison by now for stopping intelligence on al Qaeda getting to the FBI and White House. For covering their arses and lying to the 9/11 commission and the joint hearings.

    But that will never happen now. It's too late. Even if the 28 pages get released, and I hope they do, everyone is so fed up with the conspiracy bull(*)(*)(*)(*) the truth movement tried to feed everyone and no one will give it any moment of time.

    It's sadly ironic that the 9/11 truth movement has actually helped people get away with it by keeping the world distracted from the real truth.
     
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    Some more information on the 28 pages, the CIA, the alleged "hijackers", the Saudis and 9/11.

    [video=youtube;n0fAbpoCCWY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0fAbpoCCWY[/video]
     
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    Is that supposed to be a serious question? I know you want to stay in the dark about 9/11 but literally millions of people want to know the truth about 9/11, not lies and coverups.

    And UFOs and Bigfoot too. And that's what happens when the US government deliberately hides everything. They also expend a lot of effort using SHILLS to discredit all attempts to get at the truth by infiltrating those who want real answers. Fortunately, intelligent people use common sense to try to separate what makes sense from what doesn't. They may not always get it right but then again they have little to go on given all the deliberate distractions by the US government and its puppet MSM.

    Well again you might believe that (or pretend to) but others believe it's only the tip of the iceberg as the vast EVIDENCE clearly shows.

    You speak for no one but yourself. Your claims are sheer personal opinion, not reality. It's NEVER too late to expose the truth regardless that the real criminals will likely never be prosecuted for 9/11, at least not by the entity protecting the real criminals, the US government.

    What you're trying to do is point a finger at the victims (all the people being kept in the dark, including the 9/11 families who all deserve real answers and real justice) in order keep the pointed finger away from the real criminals and I don't mean just the ones those 28 pages might expose. You're the distractor, not those who want answers. If you don't like that people want answers, go away, you serve no purpose other than to be just another distractor, the kind YOU rail about.
     
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    It's pretty disgusting, for sure. :bleh:
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Funniest thing happened last week--separately, I ran into 2 old friends in my fairly small town, and each relayed about how he understood was a lie.

    Some people seek the truth, some don't.
     
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    And some people attack those who seek the truth.
     
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    Today's mainstream news:

    How US covered up Saudi role in 9/11

    In its report on the still-censored “28 pages” implicating the Saudi government in 9/11, “60 Minutes” last weekend said the Saudi role in the attacks has been “soft-pedaled” to protect America’s delicate alliance with the oil-rich kingdom.

    That’s quite an understatement.

    Actually, the kingdom’s involvement was deliberately covered up at the highest levels of our government. And the coverup goes beyond locking up 28 pages of the Saudi report in a vault in the US Capitol basement. Investigations were throttled. Co-conspirators were let off the hook.

    Case agents I’ve interviewed at the Joint Terrorism Task Forces in Washington and San Diego, the forward operating base for some of the Saudi hijackers, as well as detectives at the Fairfax County (Va.) Police Department who also investigated several 9/11 leads, say virtually every road led back to the Saudi Embassy in Washington, as well as the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles.

    Yet time and time again, they were called off from pursuing leads. A common excuse was “diplomatic immunity.”

    Those sources say the pages missing from the 9/11 congressional inquiry report — which comprise the entire final chapter dealing with “foreign support for the September 11 hijackers” — details “incontrovertible evidence” gathered from both CIA and FBI case files of official Saudi assistance for at least two of the Saudi hijackers who settled in San Diego.

    Read the rest ...

    http://nypost.com/2016/04/17/how-us-covered-up-saudi-role-in-911/

    And this is just the tip of the 9/11 COVERUP iceberg.
     
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    I think the 28 redacted pages should have been released a decade ago when the Saudis ASKED for the redaction to be made public.

    9-11 was not an expensive conspiracy.. It probably cost less than $500,000 but it some Saudis funded 9-11, the SAG has the right to know their names and see the proof. Bob Graham doesn't impress me.

    Bush had a reason to withhold the information.. Perhaps to press his wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    IMO.. The conspiracy came out of Egypt, Yemen and Pakistan.. and was given a Saudi face because people from Egypt, Yemen and Pakistan had a far more difficult time getting US visas.
     

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