Should people be allowed to have large families?

Maybe capitalism's perpetual rate of unemployment and poverty is fueled by continual population increase.

I'm just thinking that if one country shut its doors to outside immigration and got its own reproductive rates under control, it could achieve a universal high standard of living within a few decades.

 

The central contradiction of capitalism is in allowing market forces to shift capital across borders without restriction. Free enterprise cannot be truly free until and unless labour (people) are free to move across borders in pursuit of employment. Or do you neo-conservatives want it both ways?

 

Only third worlders should have to believe that. First worlders should know we merely need to find market friendly forms of socialism to bailout capitalism.

 

So while both sides refuse to agree on which approach should be pursued, we do nothing.

 

I am still advocating market friendly solutions to simple poverty and capitalism's, natural rate of unemployment.

 

Government it not able to, and should not try to, control a person's reproductive function.



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The question gets the the heart of the "I can afford it" matter the same way large gas-guzzling cars do. Sure, you can "afford" a large family, but you put a demand on resources that make it more expensive for everyone else. I think "everyone else" has a right to say "oh no you don't."

 

many people are starting to realize that they don't need large families in more developed economies.

 

If it's everyone else's resource, everyone else may have a right to deny that resource to you. That's not the same as saying you can't do something, which might result in having a need that resource could be used to meet in the future.

It's the difference between saying someone can't learn to read and denying them use of your books. And unless you're going to start policing people's bedrooms, I don't see how you could enforce that policy anyway.



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A little off-topic but I definitely think they should ban some fertility drugs that can result in pregnancies with a ridiculous amount of offspring...ie the women that have gotten fame from giving birth to 7 or 8 babies. Those drugs shouldn't be on the market.

Also, there's something wrong with families like the Duggars but there's not many of those thankfully.

 

So you want to use the force of law to control women's bodies? Interesting.

 

i believe women should merely fornicate us into relationships if they are really really serious about a really really serious relationship.

 

I agree. We should focus on quality not quantity. When most of the people in the world no longer live in poverty, people could start have more children again. But it is cruel to bring children into the world that aren't wanted, or that will grow up in abject poverty. Cure poverty and lack of opportunity first.

 

I'm not sure exactly what you mean (probably because I don't want to know) but I'm sure it is sick, and one of the most sexist things I have ever heard. I'm sure most men think like you, but I've never heard anyone say it before.

 

I have a better idea than controlling a woman's body: Give all males vasectomies when they are 12 years old. When the boy grows up and is productive and can provide for children he can have a reversal.Vasectomies aren't that hard to reverse. We can use "force of law" on male bodies for once.

 

A good libertarian would say let them have all the children they want, and then let them sink or swim.

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I agree. We share this planet.

 

Japan has 250,000,000 living on those little islands. I couldn't live like that! I like my open spaces. Quality not Quantity.
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i still believe honesty is the best policy?

 

Yeah the Chinese are a little male-heavy because they aborted so many baby girls. Genocide against little girls in China. I don't know it they do this anymore, but old habits are hard to break.

 

I believe we should strive more toward vertical systems. Hydroponics is one way to utilize a lot of empty space.

 

Most of the genius in technological advances in the western world did not come from the wealthy class. It came for the middle class. The wealthy are just the ones that had the capital to invest in the ideas, and make all the money off them.

 

We consume...and we produce.
If we have children...enough for replacement and more, then our society and culture thrives. If we don't have replacement children then our culture withers away.

 

I think every person and every family has the natural and inalienable right to make their own reproductive decisions, and the only justification for removing existing children from their parents or legal guardians is lawfully proven parental abuse.

If you do not believe in this as a basic human right, let me ask you a question: whom do you trust to make your family's reproductive decisions for you?

 

I like good libertarians and wish the world worked that way.
(unfortunately sinking people often pull you down with them)



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I'm a guy and I don't think that way. You abstain from physical relationships until marriage between one man and one woman.