Should we get out of the Middle East?

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    I wonder if anyone has calculated the true benefit of the 'cheap' energy that we get by also having the largest defense budget on the planet... cuz I'm betting it would be a lot cheaper to pull out of the middle east and get more expensive oil elsewhere that we don't have to maintain a global military empire to protect. Canada, for example has craptons of oil locked up in tar sands that i've no doubt they would love to sell us. Its expensive to extract, but we'll need to task precisely 0 military resources to protect it, and Canada won't be using any of the proceeds of their oil to fund violent extremist proxy forces to destabilize their neighbors.
     
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    You don’t understand the issue
     
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    You mean like being self sufficient on oil? Great idea cause we were until Biden ruined it. Not too far gone to repair it either but he won’t.

    Canada would also be a good source but Biden in his ultimate wisdom shut dow another pipeline that would have brought us oil from Canada.
     
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    Biden is beholding to the far left.
     
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    Biden didn't, doesn't and won't do a damn thing except authorize whatever the international money powers tell him to. He has all the wisdom of a machine that's been programmed to draw a signature on paper.
     
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    Biden never had integrity, that's why he was put into office by the powers that be. Unlike Trump he's not a threat, since he's always been part of their criminal 'cartel'.

    As for getting out of the Middle East, forget it. What Washington is doing is closing its bases in Qatar and moving them to Jordan so it can be further away from Iran. Smart move!
     
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    Joe is an old professional in the game of politics and administration. He saved you, folks, from coronavirus.

    Chubby Donald failed miserably on that. :)
     
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    "The powers" are the voters.
    That's how it is and that's how it should be. :)
     
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    Translates to lifelong parasite. And I saved myself from the plandemic by watching my nutrition, continuing to work and not taking the experimental gene therapy. Not sure why you needed to include me in your little worship session here...
     
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    Nope, there's no known nutritional therapy against the Covid.
    The many others who got vaccinated protected you from that motherf** virus.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I recommend reducing your propaganda koolaid intake, or at least supplimenting it with some science now and then...
    Nutrition and the immune system: an introduction - PubMed (nih.gov)
     
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    There is no doubt that an appropriate diet can support the immune system. The only problem is that following a diet can be quite difficult. Vaccination is much easier and doesn't require self-discipline about food.

    Are there any examples of infected people who have been able to prevent a serious course of the disease through proper nutrition?
    I'd really care.
     
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    How bout the ****-tons of people who tested positive for covid before the vaccine existed but never felt sick or only had mild symptoms? Is that enough examples for you?

    I mean, either some people got it and their immune system killed it before it hurt them, or there were a LOT of false positives... If we assume the tests were relatively accurate, then that means theres a lot of people who killed the virus with just their immune system. And since the primary determinant of a healthy immune system is nutrition, then hopefully you have your answer.

    ...if you're asking for a citation where the gubmint says 'eat healthy and you don't need a vaccine', that will never happen. Theres too much money to be made pushing vaccines.
     
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    Although I share your opinion regarding the mistakes on Wikipedia, I can't help but wonder if you really think that any statement in favor of one aspect or another of Israeli reality s automatically and necessarily wrong.

    Not true.

    Jews and Israeli Arabs who live across the green line are Israeli citizens. Arabs who are not Israeli citizens have the right to vote in elections for the Palestinian Authority.
     
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    Yeah, the days when America could talk about pulling up the drawbridge ended 7/12/41/
     
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    Yes I do. You don't.
     
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    No, we weren't, and Biden hasn't changed it.
     
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    Oh… you’re right. My bad… stopping drilling and fracking permits on federal lands wouldn’t stop that at all. And stopping drilling in Alaska definitely didn’t hurt…. Gee wiz how could I have not known that.
     
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    I'm glad you saw your error.

    We were not self sufficient before and we are not now, and we are still drilling on federal lands, although vast majority takes place on non-federal land.
     
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    I work in this industry. We are still drilling on federal lands but not for long. We’re simply using the existing permits that were given before Biden put a stop on them. After he put a stop on them for 60 days they slowly started giving them too. But when I say slowly I mean slowly. They are giving out permits like the Catholic Church gives out condoms. Most of the drilling going on in federal lands are on old permits. His actions definitely have slowed oil drilling

    You are right on never being self sufficient. Looked up the article I read a few years back it said we exported more than we imported. That’s obviously not consumption vs production. So I concede to your comment on that but I will not concede that Biden didn’t slow down drilling and isn’t causing prices to increase.
     
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    Long time, since companies have leased millions of acres for future use.
     
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    That’s a bald face lie. Sure there are some federal leases they are holding but they have six months to start the well or lose it. What they have is not that far out of a six month perspective or it would be a lost investment. Why would they hold what they can not meet to keep the lease? Now you’re talking so much out your rear I can smell it over here
     
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    We're in the Middle East for two reasons: energy and religion. Both are changing.
     
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    No, it is not a lie, and calling someone a liar is a quick and easy way to end a discussion.

    Go pound sand little fella.
     
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    We are there defending the petro-dollar.
     

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