Teenage Marijuana Use May Hurt Future IQ

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  1. skeptic-f

    skeptic-f New Member

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    Let's say this is true. How is this any worse than alcohol (accidents, sclerosis of the liver) or tobacco (emphesyma, lung cancer)? What is really annoying about the illegality of marijuana is that it is apparently about as bad as smoking tobacco and drinking booze combined (which many people still do), but the former is illegal while the latter is perfectly legal.

    At the same time, its illegality fuels things like organized crime and probably heightens the exposure to other, more dangerous, illegal drugs. If you could buy pot legally, why would you be talking to some pusher who also tries to interest you in crack cocaine or crystal meth - you'd go to the corner store or head shop instead.
     
  2. Kingofwow

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    Yea like the lady that died from water OD on the radio show. It is easier to OD off of water then ganja, go figure, truth stranger then fiction.
     
  3. Kingofwow

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    IMHO, that isn't true unless the dispensary is illegally trading out smoke for card.
     
  4. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    No the EBT is to cover the prescription co-pay, the rest is covered by ObamaCare.
     
  5. hopeless_in_2012

    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    Is that how you get your supply?
     
  6. JoeSixpack

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    Did he also tell you that it makes black people intentionally step on lines on the sidewalk to break your grandmothers back too? Or that it makes black men look directly in the eyes of the white man, not understanding his true place, and it also makes them look lustfully at the white women without fear.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    I dont smoke weed. I have a job.
     
  8. mikezila

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    in the next 30 minutes, this thread is going to get flooded by angry potheads that think working at BK & DQ counts as a job. :|
     
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    You must be the only person in Flint that doesnt smoke weed and has a job outside of fast food or working at the mall.
     
  10. countryboy

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    Utter and complete bs. I'm not saying pot is completely harmless, it's not, but c'mon man use a little common sense.

    Law enforcement always inflates the street value of drugs they seize. You seriously weren't aware of that? Do the math. ;)

    Just curious, when you say, "small package", what do you mean? How small?
     
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    LOL... and where did this expert go to medical school?

    Believing a cop who is testi-lying about a drug bust? That's some pretty heavy duty gullibility right there.

    So you are in favor of outlawing alcohol? Simple yes or no, please.
     
  12. cd8ed

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    While I do not like the effects of marijuana your statement is completely ignorant.
    I personally know of two physicians, a business attorney and three psychiatrists that smoke a few times a week to daily.

    Not to mention the individual that has won the most golds EVER has admitted to smoking.

    Marijuana is not good for you, especially smoking the stuff - but it should not be illegal and defiantly should not be a schedule 1 (meth, cocaine, heroin). Anyone that thinks MJ is as dangerous as these three, as well as most legal drugs either has an agenda or are uninformed.

    I second this question but add sleeping and nerve pills to the mix as well...
     
  13. hopeless_in_2012

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    ...and old age, stupidity, cell phones, driving tired, police chases, talking to passengers while driving, slippery roads, cars with over 100,000 miles, etc...
     
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    It's from my own experience on a Grand Jury. Take my word that is what he said.....or not. Doesn't matter to me. I am conveying my own experience and what I was told from a narc cop who deals with this in the trenches every day.
     
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    In other words, you have nothing.
     
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    Do you think. It is a mind altering drug, it can't help but damage the brain, that is what drugs do. We have enough issues with alcohol and prescreption drugs as it is and don't need the weed. Lets get tough on users, if you don't have any buyers you don't have any dealers.
     
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    Yes, I believe this does explain a lot of Obama's "slowness". But it's not stupidity that is caused by cannabis. It's low self-esteem and fear. Those qualities will lead to the inability to UTILIZE your intelligence. So in terms of IQ, pot or hallucinogen use does not lessen your IQ, but it will lessen your ability to perform your best on an IQ test.

    That will eventually go away however. But it can take years and years, because it's not a matter of the drug (or brain transmitter substance mimicker, to be exact) leaving your system, it's a matter of the psychological/emotional damage that you've done yourself. And no, you can't really be above that.
     
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    I know a guy who started smoking at 10, pot at 12, and anything else he could find to smoke, ingest, snort, or shoot into his body at 14. His 'rich' parents kept him from getting busted on three separate occasions in his youth, and bought him a plea bargain, for something like jaywalking, when he was caught in college with a dealer sized quantities of drugs (coke, pot, and LSD). He (his parents actually) paid a $30,000.00 fine, and he did 14 months of unsupervised probation, and the expunged from his record, by the governor (buddy of his dad). After college his parents all but disowned him, but he went to work as a used car salesman and today at the age of 52, still does more drugs in a week than Cheech and Chong ever thought of doing in their real life, and he is the owner of 3 very successful car dealerships. He is the pillar of the community, regularly is seen rubbing elbows with the mayor, the chief of police, holds an exclusive membership at a couple different country clubs, and lives in a gated community down the street from his parents who are so confident they could pick out a user from a mile away, believe he doesn't do drugs any more.

    What is the point to this story? Everybody who does drugs is not poor, they are not all lazy/useless, they are not the vile slime of humanity, and they are just as normal, in most cases, both mentally/physically, as any productive member of society that is an alcoholic or a soccer mom addicted to pharmaceuticals. For the casual pot user, it is highly unlikely their family and other associates at work even know they use, and for a regular user who is not abusive (IOW they do not macramé themselves into the furniture each and every time they get a buzz), walk among people like you on a daily basis unnoticed. They do not stand out like the caricatures of the 'Cheech and Chong' movies, or the 'Refer Madness' images instilled into the minds of the gullible, and/or hateful. They are school teachers, police officers, politicians, doctors, lawyers, the guy who parked your car/waited on your table/caddied your clubs at the country club, and yes they also live next door to you in just about any neighborhood USA. And most of you haven’t got a clue because you believe the BS propaganda, that is comical at the least, and extremely disturbing in most cases.

    Estimate sales in California alone for illegal MJ will reach 10-15 billion dollars this year, and the illegal pot that will come from British Columbia to be sold in the USA will top $8 billion according to some estimates. That isn’t the poor black/Mexican kid on the street corner buying all those joints.
     
  19. Pgraphicx

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    It is a mind altering drug what do you think it does. It is not just teenager either, a lot of adults use marajuana as an excuse not to use alcohol or more dangerous drugs. It is bad deal all the way around.
     
  20. JoeSixpack

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    What the heck do you think has been going on for the past 70 some odd years? 1/2 the people in jail today are in jail because of the drug war. How many more people do you think we can afford to store for utilizing a substance that is less harmful than the legal stuff?
     
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    Excuse me I don't mean to be rude but how old are you? People (most anyway) do not use pot as an excuse not to use alcohol or other drugs. They use it because it appeals to them.
     
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    Why should we take the word of someone who's sweet, highly-paid, well-pensioned, government job depends 100% on drugs remaining illegal? More specifically, why should we take his word over that of medical science and epidemiology, which show time and time again that marijuana is less dangerous, or equally dangerous, to alcohol?

    No one is denying marijuana and other illicit drugs are dangerous and harmful. That is a well-established fact. What we question is whether the best way to deal with these problems is by outlawing them. Clearly, judging by the results we have gotten over the last 100 years, prohibition is not working. And anyone who says it is, clearly, is mentally ill, or ignorant.
    What would you propose, specifically, to "get tough" on users? Long prison terms? Heavy fines? Loss of livelihood? All of these measures have been in place for at least 40 years. To what effect?

    The key to solving the drug problem is to realize why people do drugs, and address those issues. Those issues cannot be fully and openly addressed while drug users are threatened with prosecution and prison time merely for admitting they have a problem.

    Full legalization would allow us to spend the law enforcement money currently being wasted in a futile effort instead on making comprehensive treatment available for those who want to be rid of their addiction.
     
  23. Pollycy

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    Holy Cow! Is that avatar pic by any chance a photo of you? (Gulp!) I'm speethleth.... :love:

    Marijuana? Hey, we could put the Mexican cartels out of business overnight if we legalized it for adults. We could pile a bundle of new tax money into the treasury if we levied hefty taxes on it, too. I don't smoke anything, so it's neutral to me, but I like the idea of shutting down big crime cartels that operate here in our country while ginning up a big pile of tax money also....
     
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    He lied to you. No one OD's from pot. Can't happen. You just believe what people tell you?
     
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    If he had good weed and broke it up to distribute it goes for $20 a gram. There are 28 grams to an ounce, 16 ounces to a pound, which adds up to just under $9000 a pound. If he had $750,000 worth that would be a little over 83 pounds. Do have any idea how much 83 pounds looks like? One large zip lock bag filled completely full is 1 pound. You bought his bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     

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