The Abortion Debate...there is NOTHING like it!

Well you could respond by actually posting a link to a study that suggests the increase in abortions causes more single parents, or more poverty, or more illegitimate children, or more crime. I suspect the LOL was in response to the bait-and-switch. Poverty could explain all the negative effects you are seeing, and the unbalanced payscale in America (with executives often making 100 times the average worker's pay) could be the cause.

 

Yes, sleeping with somebody is a choice, but even responsible people using contraceptives can have an unwanted pregnancy and I hope you do not claim rape is a woman's choice.

Here is another theory about the increase in domestic violence... The very men who used to trap their women by getting them pregnant are getting frustrated because now she can get an abortion and escape his abuse. Now these men have to use overt violence to keep their women "under control."

 

Clearly, you have had some bad relationships. Most men aren't at all like this creepy allegory you put forth.

 

No... I am a guy and I have been married for a couple of decades but I worked several different jobs to pay for college and met a few guys who thought that way. Fortunately they are in the minority, and most households do not have to deal with that kind of abuse. Domestic violence numbers do suggest that violence has been increasing as the economy gets worse (and is more prevalent in impoverished areas).

 

So all of the people who oppose the woman having a choice in the 8th month are narcissistic? Or is that term reserved for people with the same opinion as the former, except in month 3?

 

As I did not even mention a timeline, and RvW as well as most states and public opinion/ Women/ Doctors..../most people on Earth agree that late term abortion is not acceptable, and thus extremely rare......I must assume you are doing as most pro-life extremists do and playing the emotion card in hopes of changing the debate.

 

Nope, I'm responding to the emotion card. You called pro-lifers narcissistic. Pro-lifers believe the same as the majority of the world: that abortion should be restricted. They simply want it restricted for a longer period. I'm not so sure that makes them narcissistic.

 

Actually there is a spectrum of opinion
Including those who oppose birth control pills

It does not take much reading on this forum to read that life begins the moment the egg is fertilized

Bc pills partly
Make the uterine lining inhospitable to a fertilized egg.
In other words.... They murder the innocent life of the fertilized egg

 

I think most people would agree that the fertilized egg represents life, but most people would also agree that the fertilized egg has not yet developed into a sentient being, so traditional interpersonal law does not apply.

It is unfortunate that so many people (like Little Sisters of the Poor) want to interfere with access to birth control and then complain that there are so many abortions.

 

The narcissism comes from the general belief that the opinions they hold should be used to define the choices of others, regardless of societal law. This combined with what often seems a voyeuristic wish to delve into a strangers sex life is disturbing to say the least.

 

Yes, but laws making abortions more difficult to obtain tend to simply delay the abortion

Imo pro life movement zealots are clear that every restriction is simply an in cremental step to further restrictions with no end short of a total ban

 

Exactly. It takes a typical woman at least a month to SUSPECT that she is pregnant. Add another month to be sure the period is really late (maybe longer if she was using protection and cannot believe it failed). Then if she happens to live in an area where the anti-abortion zealots have managed to close the abortion clinics she may have to coordinate a trip out of town to find an abortion provider. Recent attempts to close down abortion services are clearly part of the strategy to delay until it is too late for an elective abortion. Maybe they will become so blatant about it that it can be used as justification to eliminate the existing laws against late-term abortion (or allow exceptions based on lack of available abortion services). The zealots will not stop trying to close abortion clinics until it becomes clear that their efforts are backfiring.