The Abortion Debate...there is NOTHING like it!

You are "Anti-Woman" because you wish to remove the rights of every breeding age female to control her own body. And females are only at more risk for abortion in China.

 

Your "freedom" seems to come at a cost. Illegitimacy, crime, and poverty, and STDs are all skyrocketing in since this "freedom" to kill granted by the courts. Should every woman be forced to live alone in a housing project? That's the reality in today's America. How is that "pro-woman"?

P.S. Not Just in China Anymore
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-it-persists-and-how-we-can-change-it/257864/

 

Actually you do have a choice before you sleep with someone. Most parents will tell you that it is rarely a good idea to isolate kids from the consequences of their actions.

My recollection was that since Roe V Wade, domestic violence skyrocketed in the US.

 

I'm not anti- woman....

what are you talking about.??........the abortion issue is about choosing to have an abortion or not....

 

Complete and utter carp.

 

I suspect you must know what a false equivalence fallacy is, you do use so many of them.

 

I also have a choice after. I can choose to abort any resulting pregnancy, legal or not.

Your chart only proves that arrests are up because of mandatory charges etc. Reporting is higher as well, because of increased awareness and women pushing for mandatory charges etc. I see no connection to abortion.

Some feel the crime rate has dropped due to legal abortion:

http://www.nber.org/papers/w8004

 

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Onus is on you to provide credible evidence proving that abortion is the cause of illegitimacy, crime, poverty and STD's.

 

Disingenuous disinformation.

Laws criminalizing domestic violence have nothing whatsoever to do with abortion.

 

Actually, it has everything to do with abortion. You need these laws because it's skyrocketing since the 70s.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/12/18/us-soaring-rates-rape-and-violence-against-women

 

Nothing whatsoever in your link refers to abortion.

Onus is on you to provide credible evidence proving that abortion is the cause of domestic violence.

PS that is your 2nd strike.

 

Sexual promiscuity is the direct cause of increases. This is fueled by the "freedom from consequences" promoted by abortion, birth control, and the "sexual revolution". Any parent can tell you that isolating children from the consequences of their actions is a losing proposition.

 

Strike 3!!!

Where are the scientific studies providing credible evidence proving that abortion is the cause of illegitimacy, crime, poverty and STD's?

No, I'm afraid your biased opinion doesn't count.

 

How can abortion cause more illegitimacy???????


What year do you think sexual promiscuity started:

A. 1960

B. 1973

C. The day there were more than two people on earth?

 

If you are curious, you can probably get a pretty accurate idea of the increase in promiscuity by looking at the increase of STDs in the US.
http://qz.com/555009/there-are-a-lo...e-us-than-ever-before-especially-amongst-men/

Yes people have been promiscuous in the past. However, there are multiple records of civilizations that have been wiped out by STDs before. Way to laugh your way into extinction.
https://books.google.com/books?id=J...age&q=civilizations wiped out by stds&f=false

 

Link between single parenthood and poverty
http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram...reau-links-poverty-with-out-of-wedlock-births

Link between illegitimacy and crime.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1995/03/bg1026nbsp-the-real-root-causes-of-violent-crime

The sexual revolution and multiple partners are the cause of most of this. Look at the historical trends. All of these statistics shoot off like a rocket starting in the 70s. Do you have a different explanation?

 

Oh for pete's sake..STD's are wiping out civilization ? BALONEY!

We are overpopulated !!!!!!!!!!!!! And humans have ALWAYS been promiscuous...you can't change that.


And you can't change the stupidity in saying that abortion causes more illegitimacy ....see, you need a BABY BORN for it to be illegitimate!!!

...and you still probably don't get it...

 

The poster asked you : ""Where are the scientific studies providing credible evidence proving that abortion is the cause of illegitimacy, crime, poverty and STD's?

YOU gave the "link between single parenthood and poverty ( NOTHING THERE ABOUT ABORTION)


You gave a Link between illegitimacy and crime (NOTHING THERE ABOUT ABORTION)



I see you DO believe people NEVER had multiple partners or were promiscuous until the 1970's ....

Please don't ever study world history, you'll be shocked at all the sex going on BEFORE 1970

 

I agree....but at the same time I know in many cases too much times goes by.

Sometimes it's because it's a daughters religious family....sometimes it because of drugs.

We can do better.

AboveAlpha

 

How am I to respond to someone that feels child poverty increasing, along with abortion is just hilarious? Clearly you just laugh as society degenerates.

 

Talk about misrepresenting others ... prime example in your above comment, you were being laughed at because nothing you provided gives one ounce of support to your assertion that illegitimacy, poverty etc is caused by abortion.

 

sometimes I wonder whether abortion would have been entirely a bad thing...

I know, I shouldn't say that.

 

Glad you are coming around. Abortion can be a very good thing.

 

Nice deflection from what was actually posted but it didn't work.

You can't point out where I ever said that child poverty increasing or abortion is hilarious.

I think YOU claiming that there was no promiscuity before 1970 is hilarious (as proven in my post THAT is what I was laughing about).


You HAD to deflect to avoid :

The poster asked you : ""Where are the scientific studies providing credible evidence proving that abortion is the cause of illegitimacy, crime, poverty and STD's?

YOU gave the "link between single parenthood and poverty ( NOTHING THERE ABOUT ABORTION)


You gave a Link between illegitimacy and crime (NOTHING THERE ABOUT ABORTION)





AND you have never explained how abortion contributes to more illegitimate kids ....

 

I agree a big part of it is ego. I met a few people from Operation Rescue many years ago and they were clearly VERY interested in how many babies they saved and had ZERO interest in helping women care for those infants that would have been aborted, so woman and baby (and sometimes entire families) drop deeper into poverty thanks to their efforts.

Anti-abortion is also a safe position to take because you get to assert that all life is important and no fetus should be allowed to die. I suppose that feeds back into the ego (you get to win more arguments). Even better... It does not cost you anything to block all abortions because THOSE people are the ones who will have to suffer through a problem pregnancy or feed another child that they cannot afford. You get to feel good because you are "saving babies" and it does not cost you a cent.

I am a Christian but I am pro-choice because I realize that life is a lot more complicated than that, Sometimes people have to make hard decisions. The "pro-life" (aka "anti-abortion") activists make that so much harder on people by lying about the facts (e.g. the fetus can think at 8 weeks). I have to agree with you that it is narcissism on their part (i.e. "It makes me sad to think about aborted babies, so I don't want anybody to ever get an abortion").