The Atlantic - "The Mind of Donald Trump"

What's not so funny is that only the Left thinks "out loud" about preserving our most precious value - the Popular Vote for the designation of the PotUS.

Without interference from a so-called and antiquated notion called the "Electoral" College. (Who elected any of them? And yet they have the right to vote as they please!)

From here: Poll: most people who voted in 2016 want to abolish the Electoral College - excerpt:


WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Interesting, a newly invented precious value. Didn't they teach you anything in Civics?

 

He's fired !!!

 

Genau. This is too high brow for many Trump supporters, sorry to say. They're undereducated and proud, ignorant and opinionated. They're not going to understand this statement about Trump attacking the very liberty for which this nation has long stood.

 

Rubbish thinking.

How many times day do you drink water, and how many times a day are you threatened with a personal attack? The hierarchy is made in terms of various levels of need. The bottom two are life-sustaining, and therefore primordial.

Which is why we should not be throwing people into the artificial "prison" below the Poverty Threshold. Where the lack of funds because they cannot find a decent job due to their lack of qualifications effectively "jails them in poverty".

It would be the objective of a Minimum Wage to at least exit them permanently from poverty. Whatever level they achieve beyond the MW will depend then, and only then, upon their abilities ...

 

You come off as a person who has never stepped out into the wild or the real world. I've been attacked and threaten by both people and animals.
PRWF Please remember what's first:
Protection #1. You are going to care less about getting a drink of water or using your SNAP card to get some food when a dangerous predator is coming at you.
Rescue #2 Trying to get yourself out of your current mess.

Water #3. Can't go more than 3 days without it.

Food #4. Can't go more than a month without it.

I am a conservative capitalist. Income redistribution should never, ever be controlled and mandated by the government. It should not be theirs to give.
The Minimum Wage Act should be trashed along with almost every other obsolete welfare law.
Entitlements rarely encourage the incentive for the lazy to better themselves.

 

Great theory but completely "Rubbish Thinking." The reasons have been presented here many times. Basically the law of supply and demand - raising the price of labor will increase unemployment. It is much more important for people to have a job and supplement as required via social safety nets than to create unemployment and "take care of" those forced into unemployment with welfare.

 

In fact, what pulled those Dems over to Trump was the sad experience of Great Recession that had an awful impact upon total employment. (See the Employment to population Ratio here - it yet to recover to its 2008 level.)

Many are unemployable at the wages they were making almost a decade ago. Those jobs are long-gone - something that has almost never happened in the Industrial Age. The jobs were always within the reach of the competencies that just a high-school degree gave them.

Those jobs have long since vacated the US. And they aint comin' back.

So, whatever the Replicants are offering is pure and simple bullshat! For the moment, they are taking down whatever edifice (in terms of social fairness) that Obama was able to implement. Like reasonableness within a privatized health care system that costs an arm-and-a-leg - which if returned to what it was before will leave 16% of American families without any healthcare service whatsoever.

But HealthCare is another sad story for another day. The Replicants and their Wacko-Politics can take a long-walk off a short pier ...

 

Which is the sort of thinking that has prevailed in the US since its inception.

Some of us think it is time for change, because Americans are not getting a fair-share of the pie that they bake every day with their labor. And it's the Replicants who refuse to give it to them because of wholly unfair Upper-income Taxation.

You (plural) on the Rabid Right are on a slippery slope to nowhere - time is on MY SIDE ...

 

Let's hope you L

Let's hope you and yours end up the same way as the failed Jacobians and Soviets.

 

Trump and the R's offer supply side economics. Work then and will work now. The D's don't have a plan because they don't understand economics.

 

Wrong and dead wrong.

Moving right along ...

 

Anyone who knows anything about economics knows that supply side economics is the superior policy. The command/control swing of Pres Obama has been an economic disaster.

 

Frankly I quite agree with your sarcastic remark. The Jacobians and Soviets got it wrong, but for entirely different reasons. The soviets believed in communism, which was a non-starter - and they proved that point after one long half-century before it all came apart. (The plutocrats under Putin walked in and scoffed all the state mineral-riches for themselves. We'll see how that works out when the Russians finally wake up to the reality of their recent history.)

Nonetheless, Europe evolved differently. It went on to implement a Social Democracy the primary concern of which is Social Justice - particularly the end of gross Income Disparity. And in that respect, if you are living in the US, you (plural) have one helluva long way to go from your stone-age of economic unfairness ...

 

FACTUAL HISTORY

Not a disaster, but not as good as it could have been.

You seem unaware of the factual history of Obama's presidency. Which goes like this:

Now put those historical facts into your pipe and smoke it ... !

 

The cost of the European Social Democracy include pathetic growth rates and tax rates which resulted in extremely low birth rates requiring mass immigration policies from the middle east. What could go wrong ??

The term "social justice" is meaningless. The only way to achieve justice is to eliminate all forms of injustice - that's ALL forms of injustice. This is why policies such as affirmative action are unjust.

 

That's moronic. The Obama economy produced an economic growth rate of 1% (adjusted for inflation and population growth) and the worst economic recovery from a recession since the Great Depression. The ARRA was a colossal waste of money.

 

The law of Supply & Demand is child's play, which is why you are mentioning it.

Beyond S&D is the recognizance that it means very little in terms of economic outcome. Why?

Because with the stoopid upper-income taxation rates that Reckless Ronnie lowered from 70 to 30% (and LBJ had already lowered from 90%), we have generated ugly Income Disparity. Far Too Much Income is going up to Far Too Few Families who are garnering most of the Wealth.

Which is the truth to be found in this researched analysis by UofCal professors of economics:


Only 0.1% of American families are obtaining the same percentage of Total Household Wealth (a bit more than 20%) as the bottom 90% of American families. (And notice curiously how the two lines above curve oppositely in 1980. Who was PotUS after 1980? Correct! Reckless Ronnie!)

Put that in your pipe and smoke it ... !

 

Moronic was what happened in the preceding Dubya Administration - that of the Massive Bankster fraud and the SubPrime Loan Mess that caused the Great Recession. Your memory is going?

You really do need a lesson in Recent American History ... !

 

No president has control of the US economy. If he did, we as a country would take that power away from him.

The best a president can do is to instill confidence in the economy. He can do that in many ways with speeches, budget proposals, proposed legislation....

Obama's biggest failure is that he did not install confidence in the economy. That was largely due to the uncertainty in Obamacare and a tidal wave of regulations. We had miniscule growth resulting in smaller tax revenue and ballooning deficits in the budgets.

If nothing else, Obama will be remembered as the $10 trillion man--more deficit spending than all presidents before him combined.

We have to hope that does not continue.

So far, Trump is instilling confidence with his speeches, orders and proposals. The stock market is at record highs and the economy has a shot at a 3 percent growth this year.

With a 3 percent growth, the economy will generate more tax revenue and smaller deficits. That remains to be seen.

To resist growth in the economy is foolish for everyone. Future generations will blame us for the debt we have created. Better to be thought well of, than cursed.

BTW:

We should call out any critics on this website who are dumb enough to let their hurt feelings over last November affect our futures--especially anyone who does not even live in the US.

 

You are right about the pathetic growth rates. But your emphasis on growth is economic and not general. The EU was impacted economically by the Great Recession imported from the US and thank-you-very-much! We are dealing here with our economic disparity far better than you (plural) in the US.

The EU is a much better place to live today than the US. And there are in Europe alone about 700,000 Yanks who live here full-time and agree with me.

Frankly, as regards Americans living abroad, we are probably around 3/4 million. Lemme see, Nevada or Oregon has that size population! So since We Yanks Abroad pay taxes why don't we get our 4/5 representatives in the HofR?

Huh? Why?

Of course it is in your Replicant dictionary. Social Justive is otherwise one of the most prevalent forms of justice (in numbers) and far more so than criminal justice because it is much more broad population-wise.

Social Justice, a definition:

And by that reckoning, the US with 13.5% of its population (322M) that means 43.7M men, women and children are living below the Poverty Threshold. Which is also the total population of, say, California and Kentucky.

But, pray tell, where is THEIR VOICE in this Congress? Since Bernie left presidential election stage, he is nowhere to be heard in that august body of individuals. Sanders is the only only Senator to be a part of the Congressional Progressive Caucus - itself a tiny minority in the HofR.

Which is why being poor in the US is an abject existence - because it is so permanent. The number in poverty has remained rather constant since 1965. For Social-justice Rankings, see the OECD study here: Social Justice of OECD member states - the US is not looking all that good ...

 

I beg to differ with that observation.

You seem to think, like many Americans, that the PotUS is King of the Mountain. Smart people know that is not true, and for good reason. Before the revolution, we had enough of "kings".

So we instituted tripartite governance (Executive, Legislative and Judicial) and we gave them commensurate powers. Which means what?

A lot of things. But mostly, the Obama tenure of office shows that when a people vote the opposition into power of the Legislative branch, that section can stymie any effort whatsoever by the PotUS. Particularly in terms of economic recovery from a recession.

There is only one remedy - the one Keynes proposed to Roosevelt in 1933. It's called Stimulus Spending. And, when Obama entered the Oval Office - having been gifted by the previous Replicant Administration the worse recession since the 1930s - he applied (with the assistance of a Dem-HofR) ARRA-spending of $830B that spiked an exploding unemployment rate at 10%.

Which was effective, but not enough to kick-start the economy. When, after 2010, he went back to an HofR (now controlled by the Replicants) for more Stimulus Spending what he got was their song-'n-dance about Austerity Budgeting. So what happened to the Employment to population Ratio?

This happened (from the BLS time-series here):
Job Creation stagnated for four more longggg years, until all-by-itself a miracle happened. The economy started creating jobs in 2014 (and Obama was PotUS)!

So the claim that "It's all Obama's fault" is, well, just BS from Rabid Replicants ...

 

Lafayette:

First, are you a US citizen? You write like you are not.

If you read my post, you would know that I said a president is NOT King of the Mountain when it comes to the US economy. He is more of a motivational speaker in favor of the economy. Something which Obama failed at largely due to Obamacare's unknown consequences and the increase in business regulation.

The stimulus package you mentioned was proposed by the Bush Administration and passed after Obama took office. It's effects were less than hoped for.

What assisted Obama was zero percent interest rates. It made borrowing cheaper for those who could work their way through maze of regulations (something which I tried to do and failed at for the first time). It also forced savers to take money out of their previously secure bank accounts with zero returns and put it into the stock market.

The credit crunch of 2008 was the result of years of bad planning by both parties in Congress and the greed of every person in the country who wanted to buy and sell something and finance it.

With inflated values of things like houses and cars, low interest rates and nothing down, a train wreck was started which derailed just before the November, 2008 elections.

The recovery from the credit crunch of 2008 was largely on paper for many Americans. If you lived here and worked here, you would see it. Many lost jobs and homes. Many dropped out of the workforce and went onto assistance.The rolls have mushroomed in the last 9 years. Those who have found jobs have seen incomes drop.

An aging population simply retired on social security. Half of the federal budget goes to Social Security and Medicare.

The end result of the Obama stewardship of the economy was low growth and big deficits. Obama's leadership made him the $10 trillion man.

You will find very few Americans dancing in the streets over the happy news in the chart you posted.

 

Again we see the meaningless chart. Picketty has renounced the use of his work to "prove" income inequality.

 

We have quite a way to go before we here in America can reattain the economic and political greatness we had at our zenith in the 1950's and early 1960's.

Social Justice and other forms of socialism are being thankful eroded every day. No person should get a free pass based on their race, ethnicity or gender. Those than can work, but won't should not eat.