The Capitalist System Is Facing Its Worst Crisis Ever

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  1. Eadora

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    Not only does the present - Muduro Regime - work to return the Land to its rightful owners,
    taking it from criminal Foreign Corporations and giving it back to the people of Venezuela, but
    they work to prevent the Parasitic American sponsored Goons, who have been torn away from
    .the reigns of Power, from stealing and taking that NATIONS Wealth & Treasure out of the Country

    Muduro will do his best to prevent members of this Viscous and traitorous Psychopathy from ever
    .......................................................................................................................................................................................................... regaining Power


    One only has to look at the up front indisputable Facts of the History of this region to see clearly that
    Death Squads, Murder & Terror are their modus operandi, the very Legacy of these Parasites
    ........................... That same Legacy that Pooh and other like - Light minded Ideoloques give Apology for

    For Proof of my allegations against these MONSTERS - one need only look to the Lobbying of such
    Astro-Turf Organizations as the so called "Human Rights Watch" who not only call for the
    ....... application of Brutal Sanctions, that Target the Vulnerable - But want to REFUSE to allow any
    .......................................................................................................................... Relief whatsoever to the Ravages of Covid 19

    But of coarse the resulting deaths will simply be "a Price they think is worth it" and their Idea
    of
    Human Rights is precisely This:
    If your politics is in error - you have the Right to DIE from the Starvation & Disease
    ............................................................................................................................. with which we will Inflict YOU


    Billionaire - Backed Human Rights Watch
    Lobbies for LETHAL US Sanctions on Leftist Governments

    .............................................................................................................. as Covid 19 Crisis Rages
    https://thegrayzone.com/2020/04/08/billionaire-human-rights-watch-sanctions-nicaragua-venezuela/


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    You could make an almost identical argument for the Welfare state in America.
    "Trickle down economics" was coined by Reagan's enemies. It reminds me of
    the "too cheap to meter" argument about nuclear power - something the nuclear
    industry never said.
    The global financial crisis is a classic example of the power of poor people. Here
    Clinton and Greenspan forced the financial institutions to take on bad debt. These
    institutions spread the risk (as you would) and caused a meltdown.

    I think the rich in Western societies are the most exploited. The sense that everyone
    is out to use you is quite palpable in rich people, according to wealth managers.
    In Australia some rich person buys a Porsche and he's already paying 100k just in
    "luxury tax" - and then he's paying a premium for the insurance, the service costs, spare
    parts etc.. And not to mention the whole industry who built the car in the first place.
    Everyone is out to get a piece of the action.
    In my former job we would automatically add a premium to our service based on the
    suburb, and add more if the household looked extra rich.
    It's the same, ultimately with tax. I understand the top 1% in NTC pay about 30% of the
    city's taxes.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who would of thought we'd finally come down to Democrats admitting their Communist aspirations. Glad Republicans have finally gone on offence!
     
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    They are pretty snuggly with the Chi-Coms. But then these are media companies, and you don't get to screen Aladdin in China if you don't cowtow to the Chinese Communist Party.

    And our Free Market system is doing just fine, well, depending on just how bad this Chinese virus is.

    South Korean Study Finds Virus Might Be “Reactivating” In Some Recovered Patients

    That would put a real dent in the herd immunity theory.

    There have been repeated indications that patients who’ve had coronavirus and been “cured” don’t always enjoy immunity. First was the report from China about some patients testing negative after recuperating — and then testing positive on a follow-up test. Second was yesterday’s news of a Chinese study that found some people who’ve recovered from the disease had few antibodies in their blood afterward, suggesting that they might be vulnerable to reinfection.

    Now there’s a study from South Korea with a new theory to explain what’s happening. As in China, some patients in Korea who seem to have beaten the disease are testing negative and then … positive. Leading doctors to wonder: Are some “cured” patients really not cured? If so, how many others spanning the world are walking around right now, believing they’re out of the woods when in fact they’re still infected, inadvertently spreading the virus to others in the belief that they’re no longer contagious because they tested negative?

    The coronavirus may be “reactivating” in people who have been cured of the illness, according to Korea’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    About 51 patients classed as having been cured in South Korea have tested positive again, the CDC said in a briefing on Monday. Rather than being infected again, the virus may have been reactivated in these people, given they tested positive again shortly after being released from quarantine, said Jeong Eun-kyeong, director-general of the Korean CDC.

    “While we are putting more weight on reactivation as the possible cause, we are conducting a comprehensive study on this,” Jeong said. “There have been many cases when a patient during treatment will test negative one day and positive another.”​

    https://hotair.com/archives/allahpu...-virus-might-reactivating-recovered-patients/

     
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    As a Democrat, I feel no connection whatsoever with the charges you voice in your post. I don't know where you guys get these insane ideas. It's exhausting just keeping up with them. You wanna talk about "fake news," start here.
     
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    Awe, to be young. You know the saying. Never a lib before 25 and you don't have a heart, if you still are after 25 you don't have a brain.

    I hate to break it to you, but Marxism doesn't apply to the West anymore. You are a little late to the party comrade. There is no Proletariat anymore in America, certainly not in the 19th century eastern European sense.

    Who exactly is the bourgeoisie in your mind? Is it the Weinsteins, Epsteins, Zuckerbergs, Rothschilds, Seinfelds, Schiffs, Spielbergs, Bezos, Bernankes, Madoffs, Grynspans, Krugmans etc? Do you want to take your personal frustrations out on them and make them feel your pain? I doubt it. Who exactly needs to pay for your suffering?
     
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    Ah, the Rothschilds - poster boys of the conspirators, anti-Semites and Marxists.
    If you look at the top 1,000 rich families in America today there is one Rothschild,
    but he isn't related to that famous family of old.
     
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    The Democrats are owned by the MSM

    The MSM is owned by China

    The MSM will tow the Chinese Democrat party line to ensure access to the Chinese market. Democrats basically work for China whether they know it or not. Most are what Stalin would call useful... advocating for their own enslavement.
     
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    I'm sure you don't. Most Democrats are what stalin would call useful... who advocate for their own enslavement.

    Democrats be like... I'm not a socialist. I just vote for socialist and demand socialism. Not many capitalism/America defenders in the DNC.
     
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    Is this referring to the "useful idiot" comment? If so, wasn't it Lenin who claimed
    this of the Western Left?
     
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    You avoided the point of my post. Congrats.
     
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    They are eating their just desserts. Polling shows that the American People have realized that the Chinese Government has been lying their asses off, even Democrats, 2/1.

    And interestingly, only the Press has negative marks for their handing of this crisis.

    This is displayed every press conference. Trump/Pence and the team are trying to deliver information and the Press corp is playing "gotcha", even seeded with a Chinese Communist propagandist, exposed on air by Trump, right in the WH?

    Amazing!

    And you are right about the leverage the CCP has over the giant media companies including the incestuous groups that own the "News" corps
     
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    You have proven my point entirely. Thank you.
     
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    They are no longer in reality. They hate Trump so much they will side with anyone and do anything to get rid of him even if it is not in their own interest. Defeat ISIS, create jobs, build a wall, reign in China.These are all things that benefit them, but they must follow their Commissar's orders.
     
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    .. .. . Avoidance is one of the Pooh's Forte's - Keep poking him
    .. ... . with an Uncomfortable Fact & he'll push is Ignore Button
    ........ Fun to Kick with his Bum sticking up in the Air like that :)
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    [​IMG] Now the Mod's are probably going to Kick my Ass for making fun of the guy [​IMG]


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    Their hatred for us is currently focused on Trump.
     
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    Remember how they treated Bush? He was the epitome of a follower. Whatever the Washington insiders or AIPAC told him he did. He wasn't an ideologue. He didn't push an agenda. He got elected and stayed within the lines and they painted HIM out to be the worst man in American history. And for what? Because he was exactly what you said Trump is to them now. A projection of US. If they could they would do to us exactly what they did in Russia. Thank God for the Second Amendment.
     
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    They've always done this. Reagan was endlessly smeared, Papa Bush was supposed to be in collusion with Iran, when he wasn't smuggling crack into US cities to kill blacks and Dubya [aka Hitler] the Lesser had a weather machine he used to loose a hurricane on New Orleans to drown black folks. Biden assured black voters that "They want to keep you all in chains!"

    It will be interesting to watch their rapid rehab of Trump when they want to compare the next GOP president unfavorably with previous presidents.

    Who they really hate is US. They just focus their hate on our elected representatives.
     
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    Pooh's -
    analysis of Poverty & Wealth in America, seems to be the typical shallow swill of the MSM
    Indoctrinated windup toys we have come to expect from - the generation Z demographic.

    T
    hey seem as a whole, except for a few Neo Nazi's & Assorted NutJobs, to be thoroughly
    taken in by the Democrap/ /Repugnantcan shell game. -They are easily herded and led,
    moved like Pawns & played like Puppets by narrow Nationalist sentiment and dumb'd
    .......................................................... down by a Co-Opted Education system - - News to Yah Zee's !
    ..................................................................................................................................... YOU had best wise-up quickly !

    Wise-Up to the FACT that there is but ONE Party in America now - only ONE - 1 - bought
    & paid for Party. Two sides of the same coin. It is clearly a Heads WE win, Tails YOU lose,
    proposition. - Yet still these FOOL rubes play the game and draw their card from a stacked
    ................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Deck.

    T
    he only reason the Right//Left game is played at all, is to Polarize these Ovine Herds and
    separate them from their most Critical Self Interests. eg. affordable Health Care - Living Wage
    Decent- Jobs, etc etc. - and instill in them the Delusion that they live in a Democracy. when
    ......................... in FACT they live in a tightly controlled Plutocratic Oligarchy - "Of-For-&-By"
    .............................................................................................. the Banks & Corporations.

    If voting had any chance whatsoever of making any real difference, in any - Economic or Foreign
    Policy you would NOT be allowed to Vote. It would all be laughable if the final results of this Fraud
    they call Free Politics, were not so Tragic and immeasurably terrible in the suffering it propagates

    Get WISE ! -
    P
    oliticians & the POTUS whoever he/she may be, are nothing but bought and paid for Store Fronts,
    P
    rostitute Sycophants who do what they are told in the "Theater of the Absurd" that the SHEEP
    ...................... ........... call their Government, and the games played there are played for only one purpose
    ................................... To POLARIZE their "Great Unwashed Commodities" and make them to - HATE
    ........................................ each other & to divert their attention from the parasitic Bacillus that infects them

    I wonder if the "Poo" really believes the divisive Crap he/she regurgitates here. The Crap that is
    disseminated and fed to she/him, by the Puppet Masters ? - Does he really believe that Bill Clinton
    .................................... & Alan Greenspan issued Bad Loans to Indigent people out of the altruistic kindness
    ....................................................................................................................................................................................... of their Liberal Heart ?

    W
    hen the FACT is that it was they - the FED and their Sycophants in Government that engineered
    ..................................................................................................................................................................................................... the 2008 collapse.

    Cui Bono ? -
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    he people stuck with the Bad Loans that they could NOT afford when the planned rate increases
    went into effect and they lost everything ? - OR The BANKs backed by the FED that engineered
    the Fraud Got Bailed Out, and were rewarded with exorbitant Bonuses? Until then it was the largest
    Upward Transfer of Wealth in History, and it was all Upward. - And the Poo would have us believe
    that these filthy Rich Parasites are the most exploited minority in the Western World .:)

    Well he/she hasn't seen nothing yet ! - Wait until the full effects of the Covid19 shut down takes
    effect ! - And the innumerable Job Loss & Bankruptcies make plain as the WHO benefits and
    WHO comes to own even more of the herd hard assets & wealth of the SHEEP people known
    ...................................................................................................................................................................................... as Free Americans.


    The Dominant Oligarchy is out to Destroy U$D - The US Dollar - Now Why would they do that ?
    ................................................................................................................................................................................................................ - you might ask ?
    ans:
    TOTAL Power to Cull & Control as they see fit -
    Via an Economic strangle hold, Digital Currency, & an in force Surveillance backed Police State


    & these brain washed Patriots of a greed driven parasitic Capital play right into their Hand -
    ................................................................................................................................................... Well Good Luck to the CHUMPS !


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    Financial Sense Wealth Management
    Six Reasons
    Why the Government Is Destroying the Dollar
    https://www.financialsense.com/cont...x-reasons-why-government-is-destroying-dollar

    Wealth Inequality in America


    Forbes
    The Federal Reserve's Explicit Goal:
    Devalue The Dollar 33%

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/charle...icit-goal-devalue-the-dollar-33/#63a97aff1478
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    If it's HATE - we have - i THINK it more along the lines of Disgust
    It's NOT the Prostitutes - It's the repulsive PIMP that I curl against [​IMG]
    .......................... elected representatives

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    That’s NOT the point and never has been.

    The point is that if you tax the rich you end up paying more of your money as lower and middle class than you would have if you had just taken the tax in the first place.

    Meaning the business owners are “the rich”. If you tax businesses or business owners an inordinate amount, do you think they just grab their ankles, bend over and take the tax? Of course not. Unlike the workers they have the ability to pass that tax along to the consumers and so that’s what they do.

    When you tax a business owner he’s not simply going to lose that money. He’s either going to decrease the quality of his good or service by using cheaper materials or providing less for the same price (ie a smaller amount of fries for the same price) or he’s going to reduce his workforce by cutting hours and pushing people to part time and decreasing benefits or he’s going to increase the price for his goods or service.

    What he’s NOT going to do is simply pay the tax. That means EVERY product and service that people buy, from cars to T-shirt’s to medicine to furniture to video games and EVERYTHING in between is either going to decrease in quality or amount or is going to increase in price. The consumer will end up paying FAR more when you tax the rich than if they had simply taken a tax on the lower and middle classes in the first place.
     
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    Yes. But there's more.

    We have never created a tax scheme that effectively taxes "the rich". Between the lobbyists and the accountants they never pay it, so Always watch what a new tax scheme does to the middle class, because that is always the real point. They sell the increase by says "but, we tax the rich even more!" But they evade those taxes, the only effective tax changes are those leveled on the Middle Class.

    If they Truly wanted to tax the rich, we would go to a consumption tax, the more money you spend the more you pay in taxes.

    But, they are never for this, because it eliminates virtually all the graft available through monkeying with the tax code.

    I'm all for a straight consumption tax. That way each of us will be able to immediately calculate our share of any changes in spending, which also provides for a more intelligent decision regarding proposed policies. Which, is exactly why none of these "tax the rich folks" are for it.

    As is usually the case, the folks pushing "tax the rich" really don't give a damn about taxing the rich.
     
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    :frown: Damn capitalism, if only we were used to bread lines, and sub par health care, then we would notice no change at all in our lives right now. Damn capitalism, damn you to hell.
     
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    Sadly, I have to agree. I take the fact that the financiers and bankers helped the govt write the
    new rules after the Global Financial Crisis to be a form of corruption.
    But, so too the fact that the govt brought on this crisis by forcing these institutions to take on
    bad loans - loans given to poor people by Clinton and Greenspan.

    So, I suppose there's never going to be pure Capitalism, just as there's never going to be pure
    democracy. But hey, I am happy with "mostly democratic Capitalism."
     
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    When they do this a competitor will simply step in and take their business (unless they are “too big to fail” which we shouldn’t allow to happen in the first place). These people do not exist in a vacuum. If you think small business owners are rich they are not — they average between $40k on the low end to $500k on the upper end — you need to review what the top 0.1% earn.

    An extreme example of the wealth inequality involved: if we went full on asset seizure and took all everything above $1,000,000,000.00 that the rich actually own (that is 2 thousand times what you just classified someone as rich) we would net $6.5T and all of these people would still be billionaires.
    This number doesn’t even include the estimated $8.7T that is stashed in tax havens.

    Millionaires are not even in the same ballpark as these people, much less small business owners.
     
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