The European / Syrian Refugee crisis

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  1. cenydd

    cenydd Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you refer to the picture I posted, those 'huts' are a temporary refugee camp build to keep the worst of the elements off them (they won't be much good in winter). That's not how they live - it's temporary emergency accommodation for the homeless, built on a huge scale because there are so many of them.
     
  2. Lil Mike

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    The US already takes in more people overall than any other country in the world. And yes, the US took in many Vietnamese refugees. And no, I never argued that the US is exporting democracy.

    Syria although a sworn enemy of the US, is the one we most left alone, and they imploded on their own. So they're not our problem.
     
  3. cenydd

    cenydd Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aren't desperate and suffering human beings the problem of other human beings who are easily able to help?
     
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    Yeah whatever.
    But it still wasn't Obama who invaded Iraq, but GWB.
     
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    Absolutely. What are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE waiting for? They can easily accommodate all Sunni Muslims refugees. Europeans should only take the Middle Eastern Christians, Yazidis and others who really have nowhere to go. Sunni Muslims can be accommodated elsewhere. We owe to our future generations. Sunni Muslims immigration into Europe must be stopped.
     
  6. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Permanent residency in another country due to a war that isn't going to last forever doesn't make any sense. If the test on who should help be those who are most able, the Chinese, in spite of their recent economic problems, is probably the most cash rich country. They can afford to take in all the refugees. Don't you believe China should do it's part?

    Also, there is an even better idea...

    Billionaire wants to buy island for Middle Eastern refugees

    Greeks needs cash, and refugees need a place to chill waiting for the end of the war. It's a win/win. Problem solved.
     
  7. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    Really. The regimes of Egypt, Yemen, Libya and Tunisia got bribed by the west with money and weapons to remain in power by oppressing their population. So indeed America and Europe are evil for countering the democracy in those countries for the sake of cheap natural resources. There is a famous picture around where D Rumpsfelt shakes the hand of Sadam Hussein after a good new weapons deal. That happened in the same year Saddam massacred the Kurds with his WMD's.
     
  8. notme

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    There is no denying that the war in Syria is real nasty my that murderous regime at one side, and ISIS on the other side. Them people are refugees alright. Just retarded to say "they are so called". And when Jordan is able to deal with a million refugees, than I wouldn't know how the UK will not survive when it does the same.
     
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    NOT a European issue and will eventually destroy Western Culture. Ship their asses to Saudi or the Gulf States and let them roost there. Culturally and religiously similar after all....
     
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    How can a couple of war refugees do that?

    Neah. That extreme right thing of ethnic cleansing people is against international law.
     
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    We are taking the "load" from Central America that is why. Of course you could say that the US is responsible for the dysfunction in Central America too--like the narco-terrorist state of Mexico; because no one is responsible for their own messes---it is always America's fault. How convenient for the leaders and people of these failed states.
    Europe has its problems with immigration, and we have ours. We certainly don't need a trainload of potential terrorists coming here. And, maybe that is why Merkel insists on taking more of them in, she is trying to appease the Muslims in an effort to avoid a terrorist attack. If that was the case it would be extortion by the Muslims pouring across Europe's border.
     
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    tidbit New Member Past Donor

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    I understand that it is emergency housing, which is why the Syrians are heading to Europe. They want their free apartments complete with TVs, their free food, cell phones, etc. And I understand, they want free dental work too. According to a post on this site, the father of the drowned little boy put his family in jeopardy because he wanted free dental work.
     
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    Not a couple but a couple of thousand or more. And what is wrong with shipping them to countries that are religiously and culturally similar to what they left?
     
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    I think you fail on a lot of levels. It's not 1000's. It's millions.
    And what is wrong with ethnic cleansing refugees... well who knows.
    /facepalm.

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    Yeah. People are fleeing from Assad and ISIS because their dental plan is just sub par.
     
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    I think that this is a huge problem of the EU and it would be very difficult to cope with it because there are thousands of people coming to their countries while immigrants show their aggressive nature and demand many preferences for them. In fact this is really sad but the US supported multiple revolts in the Middle East following the US policy in order to control puppet rulers in these countries but they made a huge mistake missing the growing influence of the ISIS and now people can`t live in this endless war they leave their countries. Refugees would come in the US as well if it had been as close for them as Europe. And I think that the US is their next target. They will set up in European countries and then will try to reach the USA.
     
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    100% each Syrian, the Afghan, the Iraqi - simply dream to become the American and to receive the American protection. Tell it to Obama, he probably doesn't know. Europeans too will be very glad, to buy for all refugees the free ticket to America:smile:
     
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    I will surely tell it to Muslims! Americans revenge to Muslims... for what they made 500 years ago.
     
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    This evil man ... these poor people had a life like you and me and then civil war broke out where western backed rebels fight Russian backed regime and both fight ISIS bastards too and in the middle are these people who fear for life. And then comes you and mock them up. Bad and sad that you have no clue about truth, but having silly preconcemptions. You know ghat in Germany they live in parts in military tents. Humanity is for you obviously an empty phrase if existing at all
     
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    The Palestinians had an election.

    90% of of them voted for Iran's HAMAS, because they would War against Israel.
    Terrorism spread from the PLO, over all the world now.
    Nice as those people may be they have chosen to believe in fighting, not learning to love their enemies and work for change.

    America and Europe needs prevent muslims from bring their way to the West.
    As far as Ukraine is concerned, they can not pay their gas bills from Russia, and wanted to flee to the West for aid and commerce.
    Their own leaders were robbing them all, and they now want to fight Russia, instead of the evil leaders they had.
     
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    What I see is Islam having sown the oats the people now eat must double check the wisdom that Mohammed sold them all.
     
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    cenydd Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why does believing that others should do something mean that we shouldn't?
     
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    This really makes the US look even more like saints. Nobody should criticize us for crap considering how heartless EU is. What bigoted xenophobia they all are😁
     
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    Syrians have a different culture from the Gulf States... Why are you so keen to prevent these refugees from migrating to Europe?

    KSA, Turkey and Lebanon have been overrun with refugees in the past couple of wars not to mention Palestine and Jordan.
     
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    No, they are three separate articles relating to my earlier claims about the CIA and Saudi Arabia funneling arms to amorphous rebel groups in Syria.

    Designated our enemies? By whom? I don't consider them my enemies.

    North Korea hasn't been subjected to the same treatment as the other countries on your list. Probably has something to do with the fact that they possess a nuclear weapon.

    As for the rest of the countries you cite, I've never considered them my enemies. Libya is an especially strange case, since Gaddafi was being praised by Bush administration officials for his cooperation in the "war on terror". I guess giving up his stockpiles of WMD and fighting terrorists was not enough for the US government.

    I'm concerned because the US government is largely responsible for their destruction.

    I agree that not all Muslims support radical Islam and Jihad, which is why it's silly to blame Islam for what is happening in the Middle East.
     
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    Libya and Syria were run by secular governments who were opposed to ISIS and AQ. Neither of these secular governments posed even the slightest threat to America. Calling them "our enemies" is nothing more than a giant exaggeration.

    What has America won, exactly? Syria and Libya are overrun by anti-American terrorists, whereas before they were stable, largely secular polities. If anything, it's a giant loss for America.
     

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