The "Great Unraveling" continues.

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    In what I think is her first substantive CIPA ruling, U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has sided with Special Counsel Jack Smith and ordered that the classified discovery in the Mar-a-Lago case not be shared with Donald Trump’s two co-defendants.

    Smith’s contention was that because neither Walt Nauta nor Carlos De Oliveira were indicted for unlawfully retaining the documents in question they were not entitled to see them to mount their defense. Cannon agreed. Nauta and De Oliveira are charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice and various other counts related to the failure to return the documents to the government, but not the companion charges Trump faces for illegally retaining national security information.

    This was a no-brainer decision, and it’s a sign of how abnormal Cannon’s handling of the case has been that this wasn’t decided as a matter of course earlier in the proceedings and that there was any suspense around how she would rule. Giving classified information to criminal defendants who had not previously seen the information or had proper classification to see it would have turned CIPA, the classified discovery law, totally upside down. So yay that she got it right! But let’s not judge her on too much of a curve.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/morning-memo/aileen-cannon-gets-something-right-for-once

    Cannon must know one more biased ruling for Trump and she's off the case.
     
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    That lady is shamelessly in the tank for Trump. Pretty sure we are eventually going to find out why...
     
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    Appeals court rejects Mark Meadows’ bid to move his Georgia case out of state court

    A federal appeals court on Monday rejected an effort by former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to move his Georgia election interference case out of state court.

    The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a judge’s ruling from September that said Meadows had not demonstrated that the alleged conduct that prompted his prosecution was related to his official duties in the Trump administration.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...-bid-move-georgia-case-state-court-rcna130058

    Someone should do a tally of the number of denied appeals from the MAGAists.
     
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    The potential delay could take a final SCOTUS ruling into July. A big win for Trump not so sure about justice. I guess since Joe's the current King, they will have to thread the needle on this upcoming ruling.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The very fact that the court is taking up this case with absolutely, unequivocally, no merit means in no uncertain terms that the conservative majority is doing what it can to make sure that Jack Smith's prosecution for Trump's insurrection will not occur before the election. Do they really think the American public will not see this for what it is? Beyond the absurdity of taking the case in the first place is the way they have laid out the schedule. Oral arguments do not begin until April 22nd. An inexplicable delay. The ruling on the case is all but a foregone conclusion. It is not legally possible for the court to rule that presidents have lifetime immunity from criminal prosecution for crimes they commit while in office. So, instead, their strategy is to ensure that the American people will be denied knowing what the verdict in the case is before they cast their votes.
     
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    It appears as if they are playing right into his hand. Delay...and Delay.....which is what he wans. He is banking on winning....so he can make all this go away while POTUS. He has BIG pans for HIMSELF should he get into office again.

    IF he gets the immunity ruling in his favor..... this would apply to all Presidents from the current one. It is also the first big step to a more authoritarian regime.
     
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    Trump Media sued by co-founders ahead of DWAC merger, potential setback for lucrative deal

    Former President Donald Trump was accused in a lawsuit on Wednesday of trying to “drastically dilute” the value of stock shares in his social media company held by the firm’s co-founders, potentially depriving them of hundreds of millions of dollars in profits.

    The partnership, United Atlantic Ventures, alleges that Trump Media & Technology Group engaged in “wrongful 11th hour … maneuvering” to dilute UAV’s minority stake in the media company, a court filing says.

    The Delaware Chancery Court lawsuit comes in advance of the planned merger of TMTG with a shell company called Digital World Acquisition Corp., which would result in the shares of the combined entity being publicly traded.

    If DWAC shareholders approve the merger next month, Trump’s 90% stake in TMTG could be valued at more than $3 billion, given DWAC’s current share price.

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    Trump Media sued by co-founders ahead of DWAC merger, potential setback for lucrative deal
    A merger by Trump's social media company could net him billions of dollars, a potential lifeline as he faces more than $500 million in civil judgments.
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    Wait......what........Trump is trying to screw people he is in business with! Of course he is.
     
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    Of course he is. His only "loyalty" is to himself. That has been his chronic behavior all along.
     
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    It's like watching a puppet being moved, the lying fake news media to advance the propaganda of the DNC in the hopes of dragging Bribed Demented Open Borders Joe over the finish line.

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    ANOTHER EMBARRASSING ‘CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM’ MOMENT FOR THE MSM: One of the basic tools of agit-prop masters everywhere is to invent a derogatory term, then link it to everybody remotely connected to your opposition. A Look At Heidi Przybyla’s mortification

    'Politico's Heidi Przybyla stepped in it last week when she declared on MSNBC that Christian Nationalists "believe that our rights as Americans, as all human beings, don’t come from any earthly authority. They don’t come from Congress, they don’t come from the Supreme Court. They come from God."'

    She has an advanced degree from a well-regarded university, considers herself 'educated' and is completely ignorant of the Declaration Of Independence, the foundation of our system, the longest surviving democracy in existence today. ,

    'And why is that a bad thing? According to Przybyla, a sinister force lurks in American politics that is "an extremist element of conservative Christians.”'

    'To wit, anybody and everybody who believes God, not federal bureaucrats and politicians, are where we Americans get our individual freedoms are part of this Christian Nationalist conspiracy to turn the country into a new Salem Witch trial. This is a common tactic of propagandists: you create a dastardly term and then link everybody you hate or want to discredit with that term.'

    This is why the Dem controlled education system deliberately fails to teach students to think, so that they can fill them with this ignorant crap.

    'Przybyla was on the cable news-talk outlet that is often derisively labeled as "MSDNC" by folks on the right to discuss a Politico piece published last week that she co-authored with Alexander Ward.'
     
  11. Lee Atwater

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    Trump’s Allies Ramp Up Campaign Targeting Voter Rolls

    A network of right-wing activists and allies of Donald J. Trump is quietly challenging thousands of voter registrations in critical presidential battleground states, an all-but-unnoticed effort that could have an impact in a close or contentious election.

    Calling themselves election investigators, the activists have pressed local officials in Michigan, Nevada and Georgia to drop voters from the rolls en masse. They have at times targeted Democratic areas, relying on new data programs and novel legal theories to justify their push.

    In one Michigan town, more than 100 voters were removed after an activist lobbied officials, citing an obscure state law from the 1950s. In the Detroit suburb of Waterford, a clerk removed 1,000 people from the rolls in response to a similar request. The ousted voters included an active-duty Air Force officer who was wrongly removed and later reinstated.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/03/...s-ramp-up-campaign-targeting-voter-rolls.html

    Everything they can do to cheat.
     
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    Trump et al wants the power of the Presidency so badly, they will do anything to get it... This is concerning as POWER is more critically important to Trump than effectively working for the country and its people. This is his OBSESSION. That is unhealthy by any standard. There is a lot he does not know, or want to know about leadership of a nation, but as usual , he believes he can BS his way through the various situations he would have to deal with. HE will ( and has already to a degree) change how this nation operates , and will do it to benefit himself.
     
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    Above all he wants the power in order to end the federal prosecutions against him.
     
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    Trump keeps making incendiary statements. His campaign says that won’t change.

    GREENSBORO, N.C. (AP) — He’s argued his four criminal indictments and mug shot bolstered his support among Black voters who see him as a victim of discrimination just like them. He’s compared himself to Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who died in an Arctic prison imprisoned by Vladimir Putin, and suggested that he is a political dissident, too.

    And in nearly every public appearance, he repeats falsehoods about the election he lost.

    Candidates on the verge of winning their parties’ nominations generally massage their messaging and moderate positions that may energize hardcore primary voters but are less appealing to a broader audience. In political terms, they “pivot.”

    Not Donald Trump. The former president is instead doubling down on often-incendiary rhetoric that offends wide swaths of voters, seeming to be doing little to rein in his most irascible and oftentimes self-defeating instincts. That’s even as some of his most loyal allies have suggested he shift his focus and tone down rhetoric that risks offending independent voters and people outside his base.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-...NSBORO, N.C.,of discrimination just like them.

    Remember at the beginning of his term as prez they said he was going to become "more presidential." He didn't, cuz he can't, cuz he isn't. Hyperbolic, ignorant rhetoric and lies is what his addled brain sends to his mouth. And the rubes love it. That's why he'll never stop.
     
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    Supreme Court Rules Trump Can Remain on Colorado Ballot

    The Supreme Court majority opinion concludes that states may invoke Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to disqualify oath-breaking insurrectionists from holding or seeking state office under their own systems, but that “states have no power under the Constitution to enforce Section 3 with respect to federal offices, especially the Presidency.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/03/04/us/trump-supreme-court-colorado-ballot

    So, Americans are cleared to orchestrate an insurrection without fear of being left off federal ballots. For the faux originalists out there...........do you really think that was the intent of the author's of the amendment?
     
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    Trump-allied election groups burned through millions with no evidence of widespread fraud

    Several groups founded by allies of former President Donald Trump to combat alleged “voter fraud” now have little money or results to show for their efforts.

    Trump’s false claims that he lost the 2020 election to President Joe Biden only as the result of widespread ballot fraud and other irregularities were the impetus for the creation of those nonprofit groups and political action committees. But a glaring problem for those groups has been the fact that federal and state officials have repeatedly debunked Trump’s claims of fraud.

    Another problem that doomed some of the groups was their failure to secure any fundraising help from Trump, the de facto leader of the Republican Party, who remains the chief promoter of false claims of widespread voter fraud in the United States. New tax and campaign finance records reviewed by CNBC reveal that pursuing “election integrity” has not paid off for several groups in Trump’s orbit.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/05/tru...eft-as-they-tried-to-influence-elections.html

    No help? Of course not. He has enormous legal bills.
     
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    Trump's claims of fraud exist only because he LOST. IF he loses again.......expect the same BS from him........... with more legal issue to occupy the mecia's attention.......and keep him in the forefront.

    Wondering: If he wins, what is to stop him from claiming he can run for another term as he did not have two consecutive terms in office?? Wouldn't put anything past that sleaze ball. He won't be willing to give up power again.
     
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    The 22nd A says a prez can't serve for more than two terms. But as we found out with the ruling in the disqualification case the SC may be amenable to making allowances for Don in contradiction to the Constitution.
     
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    Trump asks for GOP unity, facing fractures and legal, financial troubles

    PALM BEACH, Fla. — On a night that brought a near sweep of delegate-rich states and took him to the cusp of the Republican nomination, Donald Trump walked into a ballroom full of adoring fans, meeting their enthusiastic triumphalism with a dark and subdued speech that barely touched on the night’s results.

    Instead, in 20 minutes of seemingly unscripted remarks, Trump spoke softly, sounding tired, as he went through familiar campaign themes attacking immigration and President Biden. He did not mention his Super Tuesday rival, former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley — who suspended her campaign Wednesday.

    “We want to have unity, and we’re going to have unity, and it’s going to happen very quickly,” Trump said. He was in and out of his Mar-a-Lago Club’s ballroom in 22 minutes.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/06/trump-nomination-legal-financial-challenges/

    Translation.........SEND ME YOUR MONEY.
     
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    Absolutely !!!
     
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    Let's hope she does it and Smith appeals to the 11th circuit to get rid of her.
     
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    No, because the 22nd amendment doesn't specify 'not more than two consecutive terms', it says, essentially, 'not more than twice'. However, Ford, having taken over Nixon's last term, could have ran for a full term, and if he had won, then another after that, according to the amendment, so, 2 1/2 terms tops.
     
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    Rhetoric that clearly leads to death threats of judges and their clerks by fans of the gagged, I doubt is protected by the first amendment, when we are talking about the administration of justice. Whether or not Trump's inciteful rhetoric interferes with the administration of justice, that's entirely up to Engoron to make that decision. His gag order was inclusive of Greenfield, and though Engoron did not include himself, he could have. Given the history of Trump's inciteful rhetoric criticising judges and clerks, etc., leading to death threats, and the like, it is unlikely the appellate court would reverse his gag order if appealed because the death threats, and the ensuing interference of the administration of justice they would cause, is the entire reason for the gag orders. "in my opinion".
     
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    Unless there is evidence that Trump's inciteful rhetoric, which you claim is 'criticism' has, indeed, caused death threats upon the judges and their clerks, of which there is evidence. inciteful rhetoric that leads to such acts I doubt is protected speech under the first amendment, if it can be demonstrated there is a causal link between the two, when we are talking about the administration of justice. If what you are saying is true, there would be no such thing as a gag order. Moreover, the judge didn't include himself in the gag order, though he could have.
     
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    Trump allies on Republican National Committee want to help pay his legal bills

    A growing number of Republican National Committee members believe its campaign arm should help pay mounting legal bills for former President Donald Trump, a move that could strain the party’s ability to financially support other candidates in the 2024 election.

    RNC Committeeman Solomon Yue, who is from Oregon, told CNBC he believes “more than a majority” of members are in favor of helping offset the bills from Trump’s lawyers in four pending criminal cases, and at least three other civil cases.

    “I support the RNC paying President Trump’s legal bills,” Yue said.

    That support by Yue and others led to the defeat Tuesday of a proposed resolution by RNC committee member Henry Barbour that would have barred the group from paying those bills once Trump becomes the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, who is a billionaire.

    “The resolution is dead,” Barbour told Reuters.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/06/tru...t-republican-national-committee-support-.html

    Because, of course they do. You could see this coming when Trump moved to have his daughter-in-law installed as committee vice chairman. Once a grifter, always a grifter.
     
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