The LGBT fraud has been exposed, and they’re definitely not happy about it

How would you even know someone's religion in order to discriminate against them?

 

You can't tell a devout Muslim woman, or Hasidic Jew or Sikh by sight?

 

Are you saying businesses should not be allowed to discriminate against people by how they dress?

 

Yes if that dress is associated with their religion and they have no compelling interest

 

How do you know someone's dress is associated with their religion?

 

You could ask them if you wanted to know I suppose

 

I wasn't making a constitutional argument so much as I was pointing out that attempting to label being gay as a "lifestyle choice" does not reduce it down to something that can be dismissed and ignored, as Sec would like done with gay folks. It puts it on the same footing as religious beliefs and practices are, in that if you subscribe to the gay-is-a-lifestyle-choice philosophy as Sec does, you cannot argue that merely being a lifestyle choice means that things like same-sex marriage and anti-discrimination laws shouldn't exist. The 1st amendment shows that lifestyle choices are very much recognized and protected by the law, meaning there is precedent.

He is not accomplishing what he thinks he is by trying to reduce homosexuality down to someone choosing to be gay or straight as a "lifestyle choice".

 

Many people believe in "Conversion Therapy" It doesn't work, but that doesn't stop people from believing it.

Pre-frontal lobotomies would probably work. Would that be to your satisfaction?

 

No one is saying that being gay is the same as race or that race is the same as religion or that religion is the same as the country you were born in.

However, any of those can be the cause of discrimination.

Meanwhile, we know that religion is a life style choice. Who someone is attracted to is not a life style choice- even if it is mutable.

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Yep- that is the reason why no one has ever discriminated against Jews- no one could even tell what their religion was......LOL

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Perhaps we need more studies to see if we can find a cure for Christianity.....

 

Some are identifiable, some are not. Same with homosexuals.
If someone comes in wanting a bible verse on a cake, why should I be forced by the government to serve them while at the same time they can refuse to make me a gay pride cake? If you want to discriminate fine, but at least have the integrity to also allow discrimination in both directions.

 

It doesn't matter. If you discriminate against someone because you think they're of a particular religion, it is illegal even if you're wrong.

 

I don't know anything about that. That's why there should be more studies.

 

Start with the christians

 

Sound like the other guy. Bigotry against Christianity is not the cure for homosexuality.

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No, I don't hate homosexuals at all. I don't care about them at all.

 

But we should just study a cure for christanity....maybe we could help a lot of people

 

Why? What is wrong with having a religious belief? Why are you just
picking on Christians? Did you have a bad experience as a child?

 

What is wrong with being homosexual? Why are you picking on them? Did you have a bad experience as a child?

 

See? More bigotry against Christians? How is that helpful?

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Why do you think I'm picking on them? I said I couldn't care less about them.

Just because I think that it would be preferable for them to be heterosexuals? I've had gay people tell me that.

 

I've talked to many people who came from abusive Christian homes. I want to help cure them and rid them of their beliefs

 

Great. Go help them. I'll help the homosexuals that come from abusive homes.

 

That's a very interesting two sentences.

The fact is, there have been many studies regarding conversion therapy. Not only do they show it doesn't work, but it causes many problems, including suicide. But you "don't know anything about that".

So why do you want more studies? So you can ignore them too?

http://time.com/3655718/leelah-alcorn-suicide-transgender-therapy/
Fallon Fox Jan. 8, 2015

A transgender 17-year-old named Leelah Alcorn committed suicide on December 28.

In a suicide note posted, but since deleted, from her Tumblr, Leelah wrote that when she told her mom about being transgender, her mother “reacted extremely negatively, telling me that it was a phase, that I would never truly be a girl, that God doesn’t make mistakes.” Leelah wrote that she was subsequently taken to Christian therapists, who reinforced the notion that being transgender was “wrong.”​

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Your anecdotal example only proves that transgenders tend to have more mental problems including higher rates of suicide, which is a good reason to prevent this kind of problem for future children.

That is just one solution. Perhaps they can do more about prevention and medical cures. You see, if there is a way of preventing homosexuality prior to birth, or aborting blobs of tissue that have that potential defect by selection, then that would be one choice for the mother to make if she wants. There's no stopping medical advancements, so medicine will have other treatments, drugs or hormones or genetic alterations, that will happen in the future, there's no doubt about that.

 

Then you should have no problem presenting the study that demonstrates this. Please include the study design, inclusion criteria, data collection, statistical methods and conclusions. Thanks in advance.

 

Religion has enslaved, murdered, raped, and tortured more people than any other practice seen on this earth. It is the cause of the bulk of genocides and wars throughout history. Gay people just want to find happiness.

We definitely need to find a cure for one of these two.
I can see how you would think the evil gays are the issue here.

 

But it is protected in some areas first local jurisdictions up to states can impose their own protections based on sexuality, under either regulations or laws or Constitutional provisions at that level. The second area is marriage under equal protection they can't be denied marriage the private parts of the two parties and how they are paired no longer matters this under ruling of the Supreme Court. And the armed forces for some time afforded persons of various sexualities protection ever since Don't Ask, Don't Tell was eliminated and the armed forces didn't implode and this carried over to the domestic partners.

The fact is the majority of people seem okay with it and any mental health issues could be attributed to non-acceptance causing them added stress etc. in nations where its no big deal and its more widely accepted they seem to be fine.