The LGBT fraud has been exposed, and they’re definitely not happy about it

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by sec, Nov 17, 2016.

  1. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    People can now use gender as the choice for an abortion. It's perfectly legal
     
  2. kiwimac

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    Ah homophobia.
     
  3. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Homosexuality exists in every species found on this planet.
    Religion exists in one.

    And it isn't a strawman argument, unless the events on 9/11 are ancient history?
    You people do realize other religions exist beyond your own, I feel y'all often forget that. You believe you stand separate from them, you don't.


    Since you believe homosexuality is innate, as per your response above, do you believe we should ridicule demean and discriminate against homosexuals until a "cure" is found?

    Since you know better than God, why did he create homosexuality in the first place? Just to give us something to "cure"? There will always be various sexual orientations, no matter what you totalitarian evangelical bigots attempt to do. If anything is in jeopardy is is religious beliefs seeing the sharp decline occouring - homosexuality however has remained constant.


    Y'all have accomplished one thing though - through your actions and words - you have made many people despise your religion as a whole as much as you hate homosexuals.
     
  4. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    lol that photo is hardly heartbreaking. The girl saw some naked men walking down a road. There was nothing sexual about it. That little girl could see comparable things going to an art museum or opening a National Geographic magazine.

    And if this bothers you, why aren't you questioning the parents who took her there?

    Also, do you have an objection with nudist colonies or nude beaches?

    I didn't see any aroused men in any images I found on that site. Are you sure you didn't mean to type "naked men are arousing"? Because they totally are, to people who are attracted to naked men.

    And nobody IS forced to do those things. Last time I checked, employment and attendance of an event in this country are voluntary. What you're essentially suggesting is that people should get to not do their jobs when they don't want to, but still keep their jobs. And be able to do this on whatever whim they may have. If you have religious objections with an event or with things you encounter during the course of your job duties, you should find another job. Or you should decide whether being employed is more important than being exposed to things you don't like. Essentially the same thing that millions and millions of employed people already do and have been doing for years with the multitude of things a person may encounter that they don't like.

    You're not special and you shouldn't get special exemptions because of your religious "lifestyle choice".

    You know what? Neither do I. Nobody should, it's completely ridiculous.
     
  5. Junkieturtle

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    Not really. A pro-choice person doesn't have to agree with the reasons a woman may choose to get an abortion even if they agree that the woman does deserve that choice.
     
  6. PatriotNews

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    I don't know why you keep digging yourself deeper into that hole of bigotry but have fun with that.

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    Exactly. And some day sexual preference.
     
  7. Vegas giants

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    I have compassion for those suffering from the delusion of Christianity. I hope for a cure
     
  8. Marcus Moon

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    You must have some real problems in order to care about somebody else's sex life.

    You also must have some real problems in order to wear your own sex life on your sleeve, and advertise it, or care what anyone thinks of it.

    As near as I can tell, the VAST MAJORITY of people, Republicans and Democrats alike, do not care about any of this crap.

    Can any of the people on either side of this issue explain to me why ANYONE should care?
     
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    Upset, no, a bit repulsed, yes. Why? I'm not gay. It violates my sensibilities. It is counter to my own drives. It is like watching your parents make out or having sex. I don't care what people do but and I'm all for LBGT rights, but I'll never get used to seeing two guys making out.

    Two women making out, on the other hand, is exceedingly hot [especially when I'm with them]. :D
     
  10. cd8ed

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    Homosexuals care because they were once killed and arrested, beaten in the streets, even though they tried to hide it. They have been fired, kicked out of the military, not allowed to see their dying partner. They are still being thrown from roofs and beheaded around the world.

    The anti-gay nutjobs though, I cannot understand why it concerns them so much - sometimes to obsession.

    I think it will be wonderful when sexual orientation is not talked about because it is irrelevant.
    We are not there yet.
     
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    Exactly.

    The key now, is know how to fight back and maintain rights FOR LGBTQ Americans. You cannot convince some that people's rights should not be dependent upon their beliefs (religious especially) and or moral sensibilities.
     
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    It doesn't upset me. It does disgust me, though PDA's between heteros also are off putting. And I don't know why. I think there's something narcissistic about it. "Look at me! I'm here, I'm queer, get over it!!" I'll make a deal with you: do it in private and I'll get over it.
     
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    [Deleted as duplicate... sorry
     
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    Since when were you appointed the final arbiter of what is a christian? Your god ordered late term abortions in your bible and there is even a procedure for how to carry out an abortion. There are several examples of both male and female same sex couples in your bible, many with prominent roles.

    Christians are not monolithic in their beliefs either. The central theme of loving one another disqualifies those who hate gays from being christians. Likewise those who falsely accuse women of "killing babies" would be committing the sin of bearing false witness. And yes, your own god is responsible for billions of natural abortions, AKA miscarriages, each and every year.

    So obviously I do know a lot about christianity and yes, there are plenty of christians who are homosexual and plenty who have abortions too.
     
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    In the US we are past that whole beheading, burning at the stake thing. I hope the growing Muslim population adopts tolerance, but the huge percentage of American Muslims (some surveys cite 50%) that think homosexuality should be illegal, or think homosexuals should be killed (some surveys cite 20%) is a valid concern. It is especially worrisome when people want to allow entrance to large populations from those places where they behead homosexuals or throw them from rooves.

    I know it goes against the liberal narrative, but concern about anti-gay sentiment & intolerance is a lot of why so many conservatives want to limit Muslim immigration, and subject them to extreme vetting. Even most of the Christian conservatives who believe homosexuality is a sin (like Phil Robertson) are against unequal rights or persecution of anyone.

    There have been domestic partnership and civil union laws in various states for years. Living trusts that allow people to determine who can make end-of-life and hospital visit decisions have been around for decades. Marriage is a raw deal, except for the military and Social Security benefits, so the US Supreme Court marriage decision was an improvement, but that is over.

    That all leaves the gay pride parades and gay pride month totally unexplained.

    I am waiting for those folks to answer.

    I think so, too.
     
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    Yep, happens all the time every day. Pretty normal.
     
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    Why should anybody care how you feel?
     
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    The parade is about not being ashamed.
     
  19. sec

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    nice try but you miss the point

    It's not about who one chooses to diddle

    It's about treating how one has sex as being akin to race when it's nothing more than a choice just like choosing veganism
     
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    the good news is that the Supreme Court will again be based on the Constitution and Thomas and Alito have made it clear that they got it wrong with respect to the ruling of deeming those who choose gay sex as being akin to race. Elections have consequences and it will be good for the gay lifestyle to be treated for what it is, nothing more than a deviant sexual act in which a small population participates. Let those folks enjoy themselves some gay sex but it does not empower those same folks to special priveleges which in turn suspend rights of others which are protected under the Constitution
     
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    so to accomplish that, men must walk naked in an aroused state, fondle each other and perform oral sex? Bear in mind that the even is called a 'Gay Pride Parade" and such displays must be part of the message as it appears in several parades.

    Let's paraphrase the message...............hey look at us, we engage in deviant sex and we're making you watch us do it right here in public

    Do you really think you'll win over hearts by continuing to parade naked men with wood?
     
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    PatriotNews previously:
    "Perhaps they can do more about prevention and medical cures. You see, if there is a way of preventing homosexuality prior to birth, or aborting blobs of tissue that have that potential defect by selection, then that would be one choice for the mother to make if she wants."

    It sure sounds like you are advocating such a choice.
     
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    I'm not sure WTF this has to do with anything. The only issue of importance is "Equal Protection Under The Law" for everyone in America and that includes anyone that's included in the LGBT subgroup of Americans.

    No one is allowed to discriminate against another person in the United States based upon religious, political, racial, ethnic, or other invidious opinion and that upsets Republicans that believe in discrimination and detest the Equal Protection Clause.
     
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    And yet god aborts about 30% of all human pregnancies.
     
  25. Junkieturtle

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    Gay people don't have special privileges. That would be the religious folks who think the 1st amendment means they never have to do something they don't like. In order to receive said privileges, all one has to do is claim adherence to a religious belief. If choosing a religious lifestyle can make you part of a protected class, choosing a life partner certainly can too.

    Or why don't we just get rid of protected classes altogether and give everybody the same rights. Seems a hell of a lot simpler and more fair to me.
     

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