"The reason why Germany invaded Poland was ..... <<MOD WARNING>>

Would have? So where did six million of them go then?

""Holocaust,the systematic state-sponsored killing of six million Jewish men, women, and children and millions of others by Nazi Germany and its collaborators during World War II.""

""The Holocaust, also known as The Shoah (Hebrew: &#1492;&#1513;&#1493;&#1488;&#1492; HaShoah) and the Porrajmos in Romani, is the name applied to the systematic persecution and genocide of the Jews, other minority groups, those considered enemies of the state and also the disabled and mentally ill of Europe and North Africa during World War II by Nazi Germany and its collaborators.

The Jews of Europe were the main victims of the Holocaust in what the Nazis called the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" (die "Endlösung der Judenfrage"). The commonly used figure for the number of Jewish victims is six million, though estimates by historians using, among other sources, records from the Nazi regime itself, range from five million to seven million.""

""Holocaust

The Holocaust is defined as the systematic persecution and murder of 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews, including Roma and Sinti, Poles, political opponents, LGBT people and Soviet prisoners of war (POWs), by Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. Jews were the only group targeted for complete destruction because Nazi racial ideology considered them subhuman. ""

""The Geographical Encyclopedia of the Holocaust in Hungary

The illustrated three-volume Geographical Encyclopedia of the Holocaust in Hungary is a magisterial resource, thorough and exhaustive, chronicling the wartime fate of the Jewish communities in that country where virulent antisemitism is anything but dead, even today. With scores of detailed maps and hundreds of photographs, this reference work is organized alphabetically by county, each prefaced with a map and a con(*)textual history describing its Jewish population up to and into 1944. Entries track the demographic, cultural, and religious changes in even the smallest communities where Jews lived before their marginalization, dispossession, ghettoization, and, finally, deportation to labor and death camps. The encyclope(*)dia endows scholars and lay researchers with both panoramic and microscopic views of the virtually last-minute destruction of most of the Jews of Hungary, until then the last sizable sur(*)viving Jewish community in occupied Europe.""

""Encyclopedia's exhaustive document of Nazi atrocities reveals true scope of Holocaust""

As I said, it's an historical fact.

No document showing Truman ordered the bomb to be dropped, no plan or written proof about Lincoln being assassinated, no proof Mohamed existed, no document states that Washington crossed the Delaware, no pictures of the Mayflower docking, none whatsoever of Alexander conquering the known world but we do have lots of confessions from the perpetrators, tons of victims testimonies, witness statements and orders for transport into camps but none out. So much so that it is an accepted historical fact now that you, without any sort of proof are attempting to disprove.

It amuses me greatly to tell the truth watching you attempt to disprove an accepted historical fact as the onus is not on me or others to prove it but rather you to disprove.

 

A massive operation the scale of exterminating 6.000.000 people should be very easy to prove, yet, there is no forensic evidence for it, neither is there a single document which proves it.

Better watch David Cole's (who is Jewish btw) tour through Auschwitz which you can find on youtube to see all the inconsistencies of the story.

 

I get a real laugh out of these same old tired holocaust BS stories. Not one shred of evidence other than staged photo ops, phony confessions, and fraudulent NKVD documents. One would think in the face of over whelming evidence to the contrary, the Holocaust story tellers would get some new material.

 

Already been proved Flare. Golly, it's an historical fact.

The guy who already stated the Holocaust is an historical fact? He's your proof of anything?

"" I would like to state for the record that there is no question in my mind that during the Holocaust of Europe's Jews during World War Two, the Nazis employed gas chambers in an attempt to commit genocide against the Jews. At camps in both Eastern and Western Europe, Jews were murdered in gas chambers which employed such poison gases as Zyklon B and carbon monoxide (in the Auschwitz camp, for example, the gas chambers used Zyklon B). The evidence for this is overwhelming and unmistakable.

The Nazis intended to kill all of the Jews of Europe, and the final death toll of this attempted genocide was six million. This atrocity, unique in its scope and breadth, must never be forgotten. ""

He since changed his mind wehich shows he's a nut. No wonder Denialists like him so much, he's a liar.

 

[video=youtube;RddqP0ABzwM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM[/video]

 

there is much documentary evidence of the mass-murder of Jews in gas chambers and by shooting squads.

David Cole acknowledges the Holocaust did happen, that millions of Jews were murdered.


now why don't you tell us why Auschwitz needed the capacity to cremate more than 1,000 bodies a day?

why don't you tell us where the 800,000 Jews that were shipped to Treblinka went?

 

Cute. An hour and a half long vid. Is there something in it that supports a position you are taking? If so, what position, what does it say to support your position (please provide quote) and where in the vid does this quote appear so it can be perused for context.

Thanks.

Unless of course you are simply spamming the board for no apparent reason.

 

Cole only acknowledged that because he was beaten up several times and threatened with his life by the JDL, which is an extremist Jewish organisation.
All the facts he shows in his Auschwitz tour still stand.

Besides that, Auschwitz didn't have the capacity to cremate 1000 bodies a day, as there were only 12 crema ovens. And a body took about 2,5 - 3 hours to cremate back in the day. Those ovens were used to burn the bodies of people who died of tyfus or other circumstances, not because they were killed.

And there's no trace to be found in Treblinka of those people:

[video=youtube;-wsxmCTScCE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wsxmCTScCE[/video]

 

Auschwitz had at least 15 ovens, able to cremate at least 2 bodies in 30 minutes each.

do the math. that's around 1,440 bodies a day.



why did Auschitz need such massive cremation needs?

the American concentration camps for the Japanese had no such crematoria ovens.

i wonder why

 

Strange why he would then come back to his original position since he is so scared of the Jews. No matter what, he is a liar and, your poster child.

As does historical fact which states six million Jews were systematically murdered by Nazi Germany. A you tube vid does nothing except to show how you rely on fiction and non peer reviewed media to attempt to make a faulty case.

 

In a modern high-tech crematoria oven it takes 2 hours to cremate a body, so you can assume it takes a bit longer in an oven of 70 years ago,

Bodies don't dissolve that easy since they are largely made out of water.

 

Nazis own records said it could be done in much less time.

Nazis own records said it WAS done in much less time.

 

Documents written by Holocaust-deniers show that the makers of the Auschwitz ovens said that one oven could cremate 2 bodies per hour.

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndcrema.html

A letter sent by Topf to the SS New Construction Office of the concentration camp Mauthausen on November 1, 1940 contained the cost estimate for a "coke-fired Topf double-muffle cremation oven with forced-air installation" and for a "Topf draft-enhancing installation".[132] The letter states:[133]

"Our Herr Prüfer has already informed you that in the previously offered oven, two bodies can be cremated per hour."

The second document is a letter dated July 14, 1941, in which Topf replied to a specific inquiry of the SS New Construction Office of the concentration camp Mauthausen:[134]

"30 to 36 bodies may be cremated in about 10 hours in the coke-fired Topf Double-Muffle Cremation Oven."

Based on this claim, one cremation in one muffle took 33-40 minutes, and the oven's theoretical capacity was 72-86 bodies per 24 hours.

The third document is a letter sent on June 28, 1943 by SS-Sturmbannführer Bischoff, the Chief of the Auschwitz Central Construction Office, to SS-Brigadeführer Kammler, the Chief of the Economic-Administrative Main Office Amtsgruppe C. In this letter he mentions the following 24-hour capacities of the crematoria of Auschwitz and Birkenau:[135]

Based on this document, the time required for a cremation in the double-muffle oven was about 25 minutes, and 15 minutes in the three- and eight-muffle ovens.




......this is direct testimony from Nazis themselves

 

More here. But, as we all know the Holocaust is an historical fact so arguing about ten or twenty minutes is rather idiotic. In the end, six million Jews were systematically murdered by the Nazi regime.

 

Stop to think this over.

Say you put in a 20 pound roast into your oven. Set the temperature at maximum. Does it vanish? If it does, in how many hours.

But not all killed were cremated. A lot were put into pits.

Years back, I went so far as to check out our modern Cremation ovens to see what they do. They are not as fast as one maty suspect. It takes fire quite a bit of time to consume the human.

 

Sudeten never were part of Germany. If the Sudeten Germans wanted to join with Germany, they had to leave Sudeten . Is not it?

 

The Sudetenland is just another example of Hitlers useless policies, he "liberated" the Germans there for about 6 years, then because of his failure the ethnic Germans who had lived there for centuries were largely expelled. Anti German feeling was very high because of Hitlers lies. Hitler topped himself never seeing just how badly his plan went wrong. Pity he was too much of a coward to face the consequences of his failure.

 

Stop. Why did they did it?

I'm reminding.


The Czechs held a mobilization and decided to fight.
The British and French could sit in the trenches and watch, but they began to persuade Chekhov surrender. Moreover, Chamberlain put pressure on the Czechs.

This is a real help to Hitler, and nothing more.&#8230;..it is fact &#8470; 1.


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I'm recalling. The same "fraudulent" contract they have entered into with the Czechs at Munich 1938.

If they had entered into an agreement to help, they would have helped.

They have not helped. They had cheated Poles as They had cheated the Czechs . This fact &#8470;2.

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Fact &#8470;3 - is an indisputable fact, in principle.


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I'm reminding.

Britain and France began to fight with Hitler only after Hitler invaded Belgium. Before that, they sat and waited. What are they waited for? Guess with three times.

it is my answer :
Britain and France were sitting and waiting for Hitler will begin to execute its strategic plan. >>>> the attack on Russia to get Libensraum for the Germans. Is not it?

.... and when Hitler would come to Moscow, Britain and France would hit in Berlin to prevent the strengthening of a strong Hitler.

Is it Yes?

 

I am in agreement with you it was a completely disastrous move by Britain AND France, Halifax was another right wing conservative coward who was more scared of communism than Hitler. But it was incompetence not conspiracy. Much as I detest the British Establishment at the time I cannot in all honesty accuse them of conspiracy. There is an excellent book written in 1940 called The Guilty Men it shows how appeasement became the policy, it is very interesting because it is contemporary.

 

the German generals did the plot , headed by Chief of General Staff Halder.
The British were not involved in the plot.
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Britain was in no adequate position to assist Poland and they must have been naive to believe that Britain could.
Chamberlain did the very best that was possible at the time.

The Poles did actually inflict serious losses on the Germans and it was the USSR that scuppered any chance of a continuing Polish resistance.