Time to Get Real About Ukraine

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is the one wiggling like worm .. doing the squirm .. deflecting from the math Problem you have yet to resolve .. Russia's influence been on the rise your predictions - as always - a contrarian indicator.

    Did we not understand the law of logic and mathematics .. Headlines = Comments "Headlines = Meaningless" did you not manage to pass the high school test given you previously Jack ? If A=B and A=C then ??

    Now quit squirming and answer the question Jack - do you not remember the High School Math ? .. getting a bit hazy for me too mate .. but that much I remember. ..
     
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    Ukraine Conflict Updates
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 17, 2023


    Key Takeaways

    • Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive actions on at least four sectors of the front.
    • A delegation representing seven African states met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in St. Petersburg following a meeting with Ukrainian President Zelensky on June 16 to propose a generalized peace plan focused on resuming international trade.
    • The Kremlin will likely exploit this proposal to promote Russian information operations aiming to slow Western security assistance to Ukraine and has not demonstrated any intent to meaningfully engage with any peace process.
    • Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin continued to signal his disinterest in formally subordinating the Wagner private military company (PMC) to the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD).
    • The New York Times (NYT) released a report supporting ISW’s prior assessment that Russian forces most likely destroyed the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (KHPP) dam.
    • Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks on the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, and Ukrainian forces reportedly conducted localized ground attacks west and south of Kreminna.
    • Russian forces and Ukrainian forces continued limited attacks in the Bakhmut area and on the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.
    • Russian forces continued offensive operations near Vuhledar likely in response to Ukrainian territorial gains in the area on June 16.
    • Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations near the administrative border between western Donetsk and eastern Zaporizhia oblasts.
    • Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces intensified attacks in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
    • The Kremlin continues efforts to gradually mobilize Russia’s defense industrial base (DIB).
    • Russian officials are planning several infrastructure projects connecting occupied Zaporizhia Oblast to occupied Crimea, likely to secure new ground lines of communication (GLOCs) for the Russian grouping in southern Ukraine. . . . .
     
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    Russia's influence wanes as battlefield defeats accumulate.
    As Russia's Influence Wanes in Central Asia, China and ...
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    Jun 1, 2023 — Russia's oil exports this year returned to their pre-war levels, buoyed by massive purchases from India and China. But analysts believe the ...

    Russia's long-held influence over former Soviet republics is ...
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    May 27, 2023 — While Russia is bogged down militarily by its invasion of Ukraine, there are signs that Moscow's long-held influence over the southern Caucasus ...
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The battelfield stats have next to nothing to do with Russia's influence --- your comment seems lost - lacking understanding of what is being discussed

    Who is the one wiggling like worm .. doing the squirm .. deflecting from the math Problem you have yet to resolve .. Russia's influence been on the rise, your predictions a contrarian indicator - your analysis flawed and out of touch with reality.

    Did we not understand the law of logic and mathematics .. "Headlines = Comments - Headlines = Meaningless" you have yet to pass the high school test given you previously Jack ? If A=B and A=C then ??

    Now quit squirming and answer the question Jack - do you not remember the High School Math ? .. getting a bit hazy for me too mate .. but that much I remember. ..
     
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    On the contrary. Russia is becoming a country about which no one needs anymore to care.
     
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Merely a middling vassal of China.
     
  7. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    The longer this war lasts, the stronger Russia becomes.

    It's like a football team. The more games you play, assuming you have a good coach, the more experience you get and with that experience comes a refined, fluid machine.

    Sure, the same will be the case for the Ukraine but they are but a dance partner, a short one with limited potential. The only real benefactor here will be Russia (and of course the various arms manufacturers from NATO)
     
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    If China is smart it will let Russia pretend it is still important often enough that Russians themselves believe it (admittedly a low bar). Do that & they can continue to pull the strings as long as it suits them.
     
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    upload_2023-6-20_8-51-25.png NPR
    How Ukraine created an 'Army of Drones' to take on Russia

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    upload_2023-6-20_8-51-25.png Al Jazeera
    Ukraine says ‘biggest blow’ yet to come in counteroffensive push
     

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