Time to Get Real About Ukraine

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Can't get medical services without vax...STILL.
    Can't travel.
    Can't work.
    Can't serve.
    Can't go to college.
    Can't keep custody of children unless you Vax them.
    Can't eat out or participate in any community or social activities.

    You forgot already? We didn't.
     
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    Polish teachers, farmers, bankers are joining the military. Here's why


    The Poles are certainly keeping it real. They're getting ready for when Naputleon expands his imperial ambitions.
     
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    Report: Leaked document reveals Putin's plans to take over Belarus


    Putler is planning an Anschluss with Belarussia, evidently one piece of his Fourth Reich ambitions involving the Baltics, Belarussia, Ukraine and Moldova. Two of these countries are not in NATO and a third is very closely allied with the Fourth Reich already.
     
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    Every time I hear and see Biden’s support for Ukraine I think of what a tragedy for Ukraine it would have been if Trump was able to steal the 2020 election. If Trump was re-elected Ukraine would no longer exist and Trump would be standing ( or figuratively kneeling before Putin along with the worm Lukashenko) next to Putin welcoming the Russian victory in Kyiv. Trump would likely have tried to return Alaska back to Russia as a “gift” to Putin.

    I have taken a lot of criticism from Ukrainian-Americans because I realized early on that Trump and his minions was a mortal danger to the US, NATO, and subsequently Ukraine. I was the first one of my Veterans group to break with the Trumpocity and was criticized with “how can a Republican not like Trump”. The truth is Trump never was and is not a Republican. He is the ultimate RINO. I wish I was wrong.
     
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    Your response here is laughably crude un-motivated propaganda, even by the low standards of CIA shills.
     
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    Tsk tsk. So much anger.
     
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    True Belarus is a goner and it will take a miracle for Belarus to wake. Lukashenko destroyed the use of the Belarus language long ago. Any opposition to Lukashenko is not effective. Belarus will become a colony of the Fourt Reich as you call it.
     
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    Good news. What would be better is for the Kadarov the Chechen terrorist to also start getting an ego and turn against Putin and the Russian military. Nothing better than a good old fashioned family fight. There are some good Chechens fighting along side with the Ukrainians. Kadarov should wake up and remember the genocide that Putin committed against the Chechens.
     
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    Ha ha “ Naputleon”. Love it…..
     
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    Who is “we” ? Your accusations are either wrong or highly exaggerated.
     
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    You will not minimize what was done to us. It was a nationwide can't sit here program conducted by disgusting Fascists.
     
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    Why did Putin stop in 2014 after he occupied Crimea and folded the Ukrainian army, if he had designs on all of Ukraine, and then Eastern Europe?
     
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    Yes. For the majority of Russian citizens, nothing has changed. (I'm talking about the vast majority of Russian citizens. You can look at Putin's rating (80% approval) to remove all your doubts)
    2.
    862 thousand people left Russia. 802 thousand have already returned.
    And for comparison, you could show how many citizens of Ukraine left. And how many came back. You can show?
    (Hint - more than 4 million citizens of Ukraine entered Russia alone. Nobody returned)
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    There are no problems with production in Russia. Unemployment has dropped. But this has nothing to do with mobilization. This is mainly due to the growth of the industry. Some Western companies have left Russia, as you know, new Russian companies are taking their place.
     
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    I guess i better start learning to speak Russian.
     
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    It's interesting to hear how the fascist imperialists use language to take control over others. This was discussed in Tolkien's works, actually. It has always been a big part of how one culture destroys and absorbs another, replacing that culture's language with its own. With it goes a sense of cultural identity.

    Аш назг дурбатулук, аш назг гимбатул,
    Аш назг тракатулук аг бурзум иши кримпатул
     
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    He would've just leveled Kyiv, fully within his capability, if that were the case. He would have spent a few million on cruise missiles to destroy the Odessa port facilities to the point of total export loss for Ukraine.

    But FAFO, he may yet still.
     
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    How magnanimous.
     
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    I know right? Knowing this, we still pushed the Ukranians to fight.

    Moral lesson: If you have an enemy, it is wrong to goad some other people into fighting and weakening that enemy for you.
     
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    We never pushed the Ukrainians to fight, of course. But more importantly, we never goaded Putler into invading Ukraine. That was all him, and it's his choice to continue this war.

    There is no blaming us for what little Napoleons decide to do.
     
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    A quick look at OUR weapons systems deployments in proximity to Russia, compared to theirs in proximity to the US, clearly show who the aggressor is, and history will know it
     
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    We haven't had much deployed near ruZZia. The aggressor is the one who goes on the warpath. That's 100% ruZZia. We're still not fighting a year later. Just helping the Ukrainians defend their territory and sovereignty.

    This is their war for independence. All you are posting is the aggressor's propaganda.
     
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    The map says my country is the aggressor.

    Do you realize the hypocrisy in occupying 1/3 of Russia's ally in Syria, and being infuriated that Putin is occupying 1/3 of your ally at the same time?
     
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