Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

I am literally asking you to explain the "truth" as you see it instead of letting the fact checkers do my thinking.

You have yet to either explain what "truth" you feel needs to be seen from the February 27th transcript just as you have yet to explain what OMB is supposed to represent.

 

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/c...m/news-story/55add857058731c9c71c0e96ad17da60

 

I have literally given you the information through which you can read what was said and form your own conclusion. You seem to want everyone else to do your thinking for you.

 

Yes and no. I was not comparing the US to any other country with that comment. I was refuting the notion that this virus was "not the emergency we were told." Every single life lost matters and 60,000+ lives lost in five weeks is definitely an emergency.

As to your point though about comparing the US deaths on a per capita basis, there is some significant news on that front: The US will almost certainly pass the EU in terms of Deaths per Million by the end of today or by very early tomorrow.

I have been tracking the deaths of the US vs the EU for about five weeks now when the US was at 1295 deaths, or 3.958 deaths per million, against the EU's 15562 deaths, or 30.371 deaths per million. For a long time there, the rate of increase for the EU outpaced the US. That changed right around April 10th when the US deaths per million started catching up. As of yesterday, the US was at 67444, or 206.125 deaths per million. The EU had a total of 107054 deaths, or 208.927.

If you use the rolling 7 day average, the US will pass the EU in 0.993 days. If you use the rolling 3 day average, the US will pass the EU in 0.853 days.

 

The largest study in the UK of its victims lost to Covid-19 reached this conclusion:

Another alarming quote from these researchers:

Coronavirus: Massive UK study debunks claims COVID-19 patients 'would have died anyway'

 

Anyone who just focus on 15 cases going down zero, and then claims "We're doing a good job"....are subnormal.

Thus, YOU and TRUMP

ONCE AGAIN, 15 cases going down to near zero, PLUS their contact tracing......ISN'T A VICTORY!

For several days/several transcripts, Trump spoke about his original 15 people, disappearances, and miracles, and his health officials kept saying "we're going to have more cases", why?

CONTACT TRACING

Google; What's contact tracing, how does it work?

Google; South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, British Columbia, Ireland, Australia, CONTACT TRACING

Results;

Average contact tracing per case; approx. 40
Average contact tracing after social distancing measures; less than 5

17 cases X 40 = 680 contacts

Now, after 14 days, let's assume said 680 contacts were NEGATIVE, then YES, "We're doing a good job", however;

5 days later, here comes case # 18, "I shook hands with case #15, ......contact tracing; "Well, I recently attended a conference, approx. 500 people...….OMG!

Last, reopening the economy, same damn thing; Identify, isolate, contact tracing, isolate.





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Read the transcript to understand what he was saying.

 

Bingo.

Contract tracing is absolutely the A and O of correct mitigation.

 

Here's the thing AFM, I don't believe you but it is entirely possible that you did and I just didn't see it because you are on my ignore list and I have to go out of my way to see any of your posts. Plus, I don't get notifications when you respond.

So just tell me the post # and I'll look.

 

That's the problem, no self discipline and that will become a huge problem.

 

The virus in the Reservation was spread during a Tent Revival near a small town called Chilchinbito. That happened early March. In the Res people travel every day large distances for water and supplies, so the virus got spread fast.

 

The number of deaths don't matter. Death is the natural end of life. If you didn't already know that, I'm totally wasting my time with you.

From my perspective it's not the emergency we were told because I know a handful of people who have had the infection running back to December, but as of today I still don't know one person who has died from it.

I know things are different in big cities, but that's why I don't live in a big city.

The steady fear mongering during these last 3 months tells me something, even while it is apparently lost on you.

Don't worry. If you've made it this long without the virus killing you, the odds are in your favor.

 

Which turned out to be a load of BS. There is not massive testing in the RES. No labs, no man power, no equipment, no supplies

 

I've read every Trump's FALSE HOPE transcripts, and all of them turned out to be CONTRADICTORY.

 

One of the federal packages approved $40 million earmarked for the reservations to go to coronavirus needs. The reservations applied for money and could spend it on whatever Covid resources they determined they needed.

And even though reservations are sovereign from the U.S. states where they reside, Utah still jumped in to help the Navajo Nation with testing, apart from the federal grant. People are trying to help.

 

By what I saw yesterday in Cortez, was a total break down of the system, loss of control. We have clear rules and regulations how the first step of opening should work and nobody gives a damn and nobody enforces those rules.

 

Orange Man Bad ^^^^

 

What’s the difference between a NH and a RCH? Is it the amount of nursing care they require?

 

Some people are terrified of death and others see it as part of the inevitable cycle and are more at peace with the idea.

Also, we each have a different "experience" of the virus and various psychological fear/stress levels, largely determined by the numbers/trends where we live and how we react to seeing people in our own communities social distancing (or not), wearing masks (or not). We also may fear (or not) this pandemic for reasonable reasons such as personal health conditions.

As of today, Texas flu season 2018-19 cost four times as many deaths as this Covid season has so far. New York City has had 12 times the Covid deaths than they have in a flu season, so far. Attitudes and fear levels are different there, I'm sure.

Some of us are content to control our own behavior and not get too stressed out about what other people are doing (or not), since whatever happens beyond our own decisions is out of our control.

 

40 millions is peanuts, for all the reservations. Only 13,000 have been tested in the Navajo Res, out of 200,000+. 13,000 since beginning, in 2 month. It does not matter how much money they get, if they can not buy test kits, PPE and so on and if the next lab is some 300 miles down the road, 5h or 6h, Abq, Salt Lake and so on. Gallup is the medical hub and is in a desperate situation, completely locked down. Next is Farmington and than probably Flag.
https://navajotimes.com/reznews/cases-top-2300-alternative-care-sites-ready/​

 

The odds of this virus not killing me were always in my favor. They were always in the favor of 80+ year old as well. But the fact that it does kill ~15% of the 80+ year olds that it infects and 1/3 of those who get hospitalized is an objectively bad thing.

Every death that occurs matters. These are people who would have lived longer and contributed more to society, but for the virus. And to date, that is north of 67,000 Americans in five weeks.

The fact that you don't know someone who has died from the virus is a blessing and statistically speaking, the number of infections that you believe have occurred amongst your acquaintances without a death is right in line with the general statistics of this virus.

 

Good! Then we're in agreement.

 

Nursing home usually means you cannot take care of yourself. It is normally an "end of life" home.

Residential Home Care is more often called "Independent Living Centers", at least here. That's normally seniors who are quite capable of still getting around and functioning. There are usually one or more nurses on staff, but residents have more privacy and don't need constant monitoring.

 

Prisons, skilled nursing, meat packing plants ... they're sources for the community because workers in those facilities are spreading SARS-CoV-2 they acquire at work.