Trump administration deporting critically ill children

The hate here for children is unbelievable and certainly unkind to the nth degree.

 

They were used as tools to exploit our laws. No matter what, ANYONE just showing up on our border sick and blaming us for any complications is fracking twisted!! Don’t even pretend to claim your care. You don’t and not a single person blaming us cares. The blame is on the parents for putting the kids life at risk in the first place dragging them 1000s of miles. And the home country brings a crap hole isn’t our fault either!

We can’t be responsible for every poor soul who shows up at our doorstep spending billions caring for all of Latin America. It’s not just a few children. It’s millions of people every year scrambling to exploit every law and every service we have. It’s got to stop or it’s over. The bleeding is already out of hand and Trump has literally been the only person with any power to do a damn thing about it. Every other politician has kicked the can down the road or been so bold to admit they don’t give a **** about our borders or sovereignty and have sold out the country for votes. Pure scumbags putting everything we know at risk. There’s a reason Latin America is what it is and always has been. Take a guess what the common string is tying the region together. Whatever it is, the culture down there does NOT breed excellence.

It’s like obese people who show up at the ER for a heart attack blaming the doctor for not saving them. HELLO!! Just be glad the doc even had a chance.

 

Good question. Look it up and get back to us.

 

Breitbart wouldn't know truth if you hit them in the head with it.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

Some facts for you:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imm...rump#Elimination_of_"Medical_deferred_action"

https://www.wbur.org/news/2019/08/28/ice-uscis-immigrants-medical-deferred-action

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...m-immigrants-medical-issues/story?id=65252446

There's more. Google it yourself, and get yourself out of that right wing echo chamber.

 

BS. We went to Iraq the first time because they tried to annex Kuwait.

As for America creating hell holes, central America is filled with them. We have, for decades, interferred with their democratic processes, spent millions on propping up dictators, and created the current situation in Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala through our endless need for mood- and mind-altering drugs. Our "war on drugs" keeps the black marketeers in business, and that has put the cartels into power in these countries, to the point where legitimate governments are either in their pay or are too afraid to try to stop them from terrorizing the populace.

Those who refuse to study history deserve to repeat it. And this is off-topic anyway, because the sick children we're discussing here are not illegals, and did not arrive here in "caravans of invaders." Most of them arrived at an airport, often with USCIS edical deferment status already granted before they got here. They will die if we deport them. Is that okay with you?

 

The US should never go to war to save children. The only reason to go to war is when it is in the national interest.

If some children or people in concentration camps get saved in the process, that's okay, but it's ancillary.

 

I did.
The answer is no.

 

Were they? Link to proof of that, please. Show us a valid bit of historical fact that backs you up on that assumption. And don't just go by poverty level, because poverty alone doesn't make a place a hell hole. Prove that these central American countries were as violent and dangerous as they are now, before we meddled in their business.

 

Not part of this USCIS medical deferment program. ICE is not involved and has stated that they are not involved. These families have no other agency to help them. If we go through with these deportations, many of these innocent children will die. Is that really okay with you?

 

No, it isn't. Struth misread that.

"The statement insisted the “changes to our internal guidance do not mean the end of deferred action.” Instead, Citizenship and Immigration Services said it will refer decisions about such cases to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE."

https://www.wbur.org/news/2019/08/30/medical-deferred-action-ice-response-warren-markey-pressley

"After a week of confusion around a long-standing medical deferment program for immigrants with serious illnesses, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on Friday made things clear: the program no longer exists.

ICE spokesperson Shawn Neudauer told WBUR in a statement that "ICE does not exercise discretion on a categorical basis to exempt entire groups of aliens from the immigration laws enacted by Congress."

 

They've been given 33 days to depart the U.S. That does not give them enough time to go through any ICE process that could help them. Children will die, period.

 

Like I asked in the OP, deliberate cruelty or gross incompetence.

The "eviction" letters these people received mentioned nothing about any alternative program. It just told them that the program had been cancelled and they had 33 days to get out. When this particular pile of fecal matter made contact with the air circulation device, they scrambled in panic and came up with "ICE is taking it over!" When asked, ICE said they were doing no such thing.

Either this is yet another example of the callousness of the Trump administration, or another example of their incompetence and their growing inability to govern. Either way, it should not be allowed to stand. Innocent lives are at stake.

 

The Aztec civilization has been dead for centuries. Epic fail on that comparison.

 

Sigh ...

DACA applies to undocumented people whose parents brought them here illegally when they were children. It does not apply to these sick children. Also, the fate of the DACA kids is very uncertain at this time.

 

We DO "pass the collection plate." It's called charitable donations. Your precious money is not being used in the case of these kids, other than a pittance to help their families settle near the hospital that is treating their child for free.

 

Congratulations on being the first to blame Obama for this!

 

I do, as does everyone who donates to the various children's hospitals. Their medical care is not coming out of our tax dollars.

 

I care that we started (and stopped, thank God), a policy of separating children from parents AS A DETERRENT TO OTHERS. It's one thing to separate children when we fear for their safety. That's what past president have done.

Separating children from families AS A DETERRENT is using children as pawns. That's never right, and the blowback was so fierce, the policy stopped immediately. That will forever be a stain on the GOP.

I agree with all this. We're not doing any favors to anyone letting people come here just to be exploited by American big business. YOU GUYS are partly to blame. The GOP continues to look the other way when it comes to the people who hire illegals, INCLUDING TRUMP. You have not held Trump's feet to the fire when it comes to this. Ann Coulter is the only one who has:
Ann Coulter

✔@AnnCoulter
Yes, why WON'T authorities charge the employers using all the illegal alien workers?

ANSWER: BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS SUCK UP TO EMPLOYERS FOR THEIR CAMPAIGN DONATIONS.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1160700765750607873 …

And smokers, and junkies, and people who don't exercise, and drinkers, reckless drivers, etc. You can't just blame fat people. What's your vice? Mine was booze for 30 years.

 

You are so miss informed

 

You are so miss informed

 

Haha wow you are.....

 

No ones kids can be "killed" by us if they don't bring their kids and use them as anchors in the first place. NOTHING that happens to them is our fault, since NONE of them should be here in the first place. Any help they receive is a bonus for them and a net negative for us. If they die due to complications, it's not OUR fault. Its the fault of those who put them in danger. Dragging them illegally through countries to get to ours then claim FAKE asylum is exploiting us. Its ENOUGH.

Can't fall off a cliff unless you climb them. Can't die from your chute not opening up unless you skydive. Your critically ill kids won't die in our hospitals if you don't EXPLOIT us by bringing them here instead of using your own countries resources. WE ARE NOT THE WORLD whipping post. We are NOT the worlds free hospital. We are NOT here to be exploited by the poor. Economic hardship is NOT reason enough to claim asylum.

I'm looking at this pragmatically not emotionally since making important decisions based on emotion is about the worst thing you can ever do. Bleeding hearts can not support a country. It only destroys them. We can NOT absorb Latin America's worst and expect to survive. We only become more like them. Corrupt. Poor. Weak. And when we go down EVERYONE goes down.

Feeling empathy towards people exploiting us, doesn't make you righteous or "good". It makes you a SUCKER. And thats what progressives are Suckers being taken advantage of, because once Latin American culture takes over here, and it WILL at the rate we're going, if you honestly think they will care about white people the way you "cared" for them, you're naive beyond belief. They will drain and exploit whatever is left here and turn us into the same shithole they ALL turned their own countries into. And why is this?

Name a single latin American country that has succeeded on any measurable level? Name ONE!! You can't. Any time any of them have come close, like Brazil or Venezuela, they all fall a part. It wouldn't be so sad if it wasn't so true,

 

Not among Democrat Presidential candidate, there they support free healthcare for illegals 100%-0%

 

The right wing is so uninformed.

 

The right who support this policy are moral failures of the worst sort.