Trump and religious liberty -- Militant atheists have met their match with our president

Bullchit.

 

Your claim is directly contradicted by what was presented.

"The Declaration of Independence Part of American Law"

What part of the title did you not understand ?

Your claim is addressed directly - with the comment "Nothing could be further from the Truth"..

What part of "Nothing could be further from the Truth" are you having trouble understanding ?

 

I have cited it several times through my computer which operates on the Theory of Electricity.

 

the DOI is not part of American law. That's the point. It has the same legal weight as 50 shades of grey.

I have no trouble at all understanding. The professor is just as incorrect as you are. The DOI has exactly the same legal weight as does The Shining, by Stephen king.

 

According to the professor - the DOI is part of US law - and examples are given in the link.

Your claim is false - deal with it or refute the arguments made by the prof - as well as the examples which show that the DOI has been used to interpret law in this nation = legal weight .. a whole lot more than the shining.

In addition - the founding principles were used in the creation of the constitution - and thus serve as the principles by which articles in the constitution are to be interpreted. These principles are also the foundation of many aspects of the Rule of Law - the principles of which are part of our legal process.

Running around in a circle crying "NO NO NO" and repeating your premise over and over - is not proof of claim - and listening to this broken record becoming tiresome.

 

No he wasn’t. He was influenced by LOCKE and was sympathetic to the American Revolution.

 

Already established he is incorrect.

 

Dude - you didn't establish anything - all you have done is repeat your claim - over - and over -and over.

I supported my claim with evidence - and numerous arguments - all to which you have responded with "NO NO NO" followed by repeating your claim.

Its like pushing B7 on the old record machines - put in the quarter - press B7 - Same song - every time.

Say something - say anything - other than repetition of claim.

Why would someone - give any credence to someone - who has not figured out that repetition of claim is not proof of claim? This is basic logical fallacy 101.

Those in the field of law are trained to make arguments. They know what logical fallacy is - and they certainly know what an "Argument" is... in the Philosophic sense of the word..

Unfortunately - you missed that class .. so forgive me if I do not take your claim seriously - just on the basis of the knowledge level of the source.

Here are the notes from the class you missed:

An "argument" consists of 2 things 1) Statement of claim or premise and 2) reasoning or evidence that proves that claim true - support for claim.

You manage to repeat 1) over and over and over but, have yet to make an argument.

So please - either respond with an argument - or let's quit wasting each other's time.

 

Because it allows them to activate regions of their brains that would otherwise be left idle in terms of cerebral frequencies and vibrations.

 

They are supposed to be activating the academic regions of their brains and it's to their parents for the prayer and meditation parts not government workers.

 

And prayer/meditation can be a part of that academic process, just like physical education and musical classes are. I don’t see what’s the big deal in having classes that teach and attempt to activate the dormant regions of human brains. Students can utilize the knowledge well after graduation, unlike most of the stuff they’re taught in school.

Their parents can certainly guide them in the preferred path of prayer/mediation. All the school asks is that they engage in such behavior for the benefit of all society.

 

Even very intelligent and rational people, can think and believe in very stupid and irrational things. The battle between our genes, and our mind for control of the body, is ongoing. Our genes are controlled by changes in our environment, or our physical reality(nature). It is our genes that control over 85% of everything we do. It is our genetics that control most of what we do, what we learn, and our unconscious and subconscious states of awareness. We would never exist without them. Our conscious mind, however, is a function of the brain, that comes with its own pros and cons. It is as poorly designed to conceptualize and compartmentalize sensory data, as it is in projecting its best-guess representation of our position in spacetime. Our mind is a poorly designed conceptual tool, that is dependent and rooted in a physical reality. It needs only answers. It doesn't care if the answers are irrational, spiritual, metaphysical, fantasies, or rational. All answers are equally valid to the mind. Unfortunately, for many people, it is easier to accept and understand a belief system, that is based on zero evidence, than to spend a lifetime of study and sacrifice, in a belief system that is not. It is just intellectual laziness, to espouse any belief that is based only on faith. Science is NOT based on any faith at all. It is based on facts, data, inductive/deductive reasoning, logic, experiments, duplication, and evidence. Science limits itself to any religious belief, because science is objective, and is based on the convergence of evidence. Religious beliefs are based only on the absence of evidence, and the evidence of its absence(circular reasoning). It simply exploits the certainty of death, to manufacture its own biased self-serving truth.

The first person who can explain what makes their religion the right religion, I will consider their belief? Or, can explain why there are tens of thousands of Gods, and sub-Gods, yet by definition, there can only be ONE God? It would certainly appear that it was man that created God, in his own image, rather than God(s) created man in HIS image. Do you think the God Mwari, in the Shona religion(Zimbabwe), or the Shinto Gods in Japan, are the same as the God(s) of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Isn't it more logical that they are ALL wrong, than that only ONE is the right one? Why would an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent God, allow for this level of global religious confusion? Please don't say, "He gave man free will.". We don't.

A child's behavior is mostly determined by its genes. Its behavior is modified by many positive/negative social checks and balances. These checks and balances are real and actual. The child will quickly learn the consequences of his actions. There are NO IMMEDIATE CONSEQUENCES, for bad behavior from any imaginary surrogate sky daddy. There are no observable/documented consequences for anyone's actions after they are dead. Telling any small child, that they should feel guilty, about an imaginary sin they never committed, and must praise and obey an imaginary Father entity, or they will suffer everlasting pain and damnation, is tantamount to child abuse. As well as, shifting all parenting responsibilities, to an imaginary unseen entity, to avoid any personal responsibility. Why don't parents let their children decide for themselves, what role religion will play in their lives? What are parents so afraid of, that they must indoctrinate their children, before they can develop the mental maturity to defend themselves? A child is not a mini-you. Our job is to protect, feed, clothe, shelter, and encourage a child's natural curiosity, THROUGH EXAMPLE AND EXPOSURE. If we are unlucky, the child might want to become you. But if we are lucky, the child might want to become a BETTER you. Once a child is taught that "God did it all", and "Do what God says", then what's left? I personally would never pattern my life, based on any book. Especially, the most violent, sadistic, misogynistic, racist, egocentric, megalomaniac, and genocidal book ever written. I could certainly do better than the Bible.

Is there anyone that still thinks the earth is flat, or that the Universe is only ten thousand years old? Is there anyone that still thinks the Theory of Evolution, is just a myth? Surely no one thinks that either version of Genesis creation is correct? No one still thinks that we are just "kinds" that poofed into existence? That we never started out as less complex, to become more complex? Or, that evolution takes place over millenniums. Did you know that there were 7 species of humans? Even though, they are not walking around today, the fossil records prove that they existed. So, direct observation is highly overrated, in the face of inductive reasoning. We can't see gravity, atoms, electrons, what makes you conscious, black holes, gravitational waves, mutation, or eels mating, but we can certainly prove that they all exist. There have been approximately 125,000 generations of humans on earth. For every 100 generations, there are 6 mutations. To change from one species to another requires, not only many mutation, and thousands of generations, but also an environmental necessity.

Religion should be taught as a part of our culture, customs, and practices. But it should never be taught to anyone as if it were a fact or a science. Science is NOT a Religion, nor can it be. In fact, science is the antithesis of religion.

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The Founding Fathers were secular humanists and intellectuals. America is not a Christian nation at all.

 

It's simply the legal reality in the US. I'm sorry that you either refuse to accept reality, or are incapable of comprehending it. The DOI is entirely irrelevant to US law. It has exactly the same amount of legal weight as Charles Dickens, Christmas Carole. This is demonstrable fact.

 

What you claim as "fact" - giving no support for your claim - is demonstrably false gibberish

 

I agree, which is why I've thoroughly supported my claim. The courts cite the constitution when making rulings on US law, they do not cite the lord of the rings, 50 shades of grey or the DOI, as none of them have any legal weight. This is reality, and it will not change no matter how badly you insist on being wrong.

 

Not to me you havn't - nor have you made any attempt to refute information that contradicts your claim. All you have done so far is cry "NO NO NO" and repeat your claim - as if repetition of claim constitutes support for claim.

Much of your confusion likely stems from 1) lack of understanding what the founding principles are 2) lack of understanding what a constitutional republic is 3) lack of understanding how the law works 4) abject denial and thought avoidance with respect to information that conflicts with your claims.

"The United States Code Annotated includes the Declaration of Independence under the heading 'The Organic Laws of the United States of America' along with the Articles of Confederation, the Constitution, and the Northwest Ordinance. Enabling acts frequently require states to adhere to the principles of the Declaration; https://nccs.net/blogs/articles/the-declaration-of-independence-part-of-american-law

Now should I trust you - your the "National Center for Constitutional Studies" ?

Now for a simple example. The DOI states "all men created equal" - this is also a Rule of Law Principle - "Equal Justice under the Law"

This rule does not appear in the constitution yet - contrary to your claim - it is cited in rulings.

Your claim is false.

 

Nor should you be.

But Christians shouldn't be allowed to legislate their religious morality, nor their bigotry onto the greater citizenship, based on nothing more than faith.

 

yes, to you I have

 

Prove your claim.

 

I have.

 

Prove it .. post where you have supported your claim with something other than repetition of claim.

 

I have

US law, the US constitution, 250 years of supreme court precedent. You're welcome.

 

The above is not even a coherent sentence - never mind constituting support for your claim.

Please stop wasting my time.

 

Please educate yourself on constitutional law. The DOI has no legal weight. This is not even remotely debatable. I've shown you this, repeatedly.