Trump WANTS to be impeached.

Trump is begging to be impeached, which is exactly my point.

The worst mistake the Democrats could make is to impeach Trump!

In the first place, heading into the 2020 Presidential election, Democrats should not do exactly what their main rival wants them to do.

In the second place, what exactly would be accomplished by impeachment? Some naive congressmen and women think impeachment is an end onto itself. It is not. Impeachment is merely an indictment. The trial takes place in the Trump Republican held Senate where conviction will only happen when pigs can fly. Trump would become a martyr, a victim of Democratic overreach. Why do you think Trump wants to be impeached?

In the third place, these immature lawmakers who think Trump should be impeached should look back on 1998 and the failed impeachment of Bill Clinton which was led by the Republicans. After Clinton was vindicated he became more popular. The pending election was a disaster for the GOP. The Speaker, Newt Gingrich, first lost his post. Months later, he was booted out of the House. That is what impeachment accomplished for the Republicans, and Pelosi and others with more experience remember it well.

In the fourth place, a recent poll showed that only 37% want Trump impeached, probably mostly Republicans. It is Trump's only chance. 60% of Americans oppose impeachment. When asked should Trump be reelected, 60% said no, 37% said yes. Twice in the last two days, two different federal courts have ruled against Trump and in favor of the House Democrats.

What does this mean? It means the Democrats are already winning. Taking into consideration 1998, why risk throwing the election in favor of Trump?

OLC, Tlaib, Omar and others calling for impeachment say that it is a Constitutional duty for the House to impeach Trump. Consider this. The worst possible threat to our Constitution is another four years of the Trump Presidency.

That was illustrated in living color today and yesterday.

 

Anyone worshipping Pelosi at this point needs to remember she defended MS-13 when Trump called them animals.

She's no genius.

 

What is not understood by many, is that the people of the united states did not actually vote for Donald Trump. They merely voted against Hillary Clinton.

 

Democrats are going to help Putin now by not impeaching his spy, trump.

 

Sad.

The democrat leader spit out their one liners, like Trump is trying to self-impeach himself, and their sheeple supporters just repeat them.

 

How'd that "wins with the voters" work out for yall in 2018?

You know, the midterm that saw House Republicans lose by a record setting margin of defeat to House Democrats.

 

Mueller's job was to investigate, and if he found sufficient evidence of guilt, to charge. If there was not sufficient evidence, then he would not charge. He sure as hell could have said he found sufficient grounds to charge Trump, and then added his obligatory line that DoJ guidelines will not allow him to do so. Mueller did not charge Trump.

Live with it, there was no collusion, no obstruction, and Hilary lost. Stop throwing little hissy fits and temper tantrums every time events don't go your way.

 

I'm sure that Mueller's refusal to clear Trump of Russian collusion before the 2018 election, when he already knew that no Americans colluded with any Russians, played a large part in influencing the election results.

 

Mueller explicitly noted in his report that alleging someone should be charged while lacking the capacity to pursue that charge would unfairly hamper the duties of the president. And so he explicitly noted that Congress had the authority to investigate and to make a decision on whether trump should be charged with obstruction of justice.

And he laid out some very damning and compelling evidence, evidence that would have resulted in an indictment for any other individual, on the grounds of obstruction of justice.

 

The Russia investigation was ~9th place in terms of the issues on the minds of voters.

The number one issue, by far and away, was healthcare. Trump lost those voters by a ~35 point margin.

And since that point, he has launched further attacks on the US healthcare by forcing his DOJ to argue that Obamacare should be tossed entirely and promising to reveal the new alternative....after 2020.

 

And yet, that is exactly what he did.

If a prosecutor investigates a supposed crime, and finds that no crime was committed, then they sure as hell should NOT name the names of innocent people, who were not charged, and write 400+ disparaging pages to drag these people thru the mud of innuendo and unfounded accusations, so their critics and the news media can pile on.

Comey did this to Hilary when he dragged her name thru the mud, and then simply said no one would prosecute her, and Mueller did this to Trump. Both men were wrong to do so. You either charge, or don't charge.

 

Trump isn't getting thrown out of office with a Republican senate. The question is whether or not it's going to hurt or help his reelection.

 

Democrats are damned if they impeach trump and they're damned if they don't.

 

Kinda reminds you of the last Democrat president and the last DNC nominee doesnt it?

 

My point exactly, Trump and his dwindling supporters want Trump to be impeached. They are afraid the Democrats are smart enough not to.

 

People already see what the dems are doing with their one bit of power, and motivating people to reelect Trump, and take back the House.

It's all going to be air down the engine once the DOJ OIG report comes out, and the nation sees how corrupt Obama's administration behaved by abusing their power. The dems are toast if they keep on this self destructive tack.

 

The Democrats are helping Putin by not impeaching.

 

I think the dems are desperate to throw everything they have at Trump to lower his approval ratings, before the DoJ OIG report comes out. His current ratings are way to high to impeach him, without it looking like a politically motivated hissy fit. The repubs learned this with Clinton.

 

Not at all. The Dem leadership is in control. The freshman are too immature to know what is happening.

Trump is begging to be impeached, which is exactly my point.

The worst mistake the Democrats could make is to impeach Trump!

In the first place, heading into the 2020 Presidential election, Democrats should not do exactly what their main rival wants them to do.

In the second place, what exactly would be accomplished by impeachment? Some naive congressmen and women think impeachment is an end onto itself. It is not. Impeachment is merely an indictment. The trial takes place in the Trump Republican held Senate where conviction will only happen when pigs can fly. Trump would become a martyr, a victim of Democratic overreach. Why do you think Trump wants to be impeached?

In the third place, these immature lawmakers who think Trump should be impeached should look back on 1998 and the failed impeachment of Bill Clinton which was led by the Republicans. After Clinton was vindicated he became more popular. The pending election was a disaster for the GOP. The Speaker, Newt Gingrich, first lost his post. Months later, he was booted out of the House. That is what impeachment accomplished for the Republicans, and Pelosi and others with more experience remember it well.

In the fourth place, a recent poll showed that only 37% want Trump impeached, probably mostly Republicans. It is Trump's only chance. 60% of Americans oppose impeachment. When asked should Trump be reelected, 60% said no, 37% said yes. Twice in the last two days, two different federal courts have ruled against Trump and in favor of the House Democrats.

What does this mean? It means the Democrats are already winning. Taking into consideration 1998, why risk throwing the election in favor of Trump?

OLC, Tlaib, Omar and others calling for impeachment say that it is a Constitutional duty for the House to impeach Trump. Consider this. The worst possible threat to our Constitution is another four years of the Trump Presidency.

That was illustrated in living color today and yesterday.

 

Then why did the republican party wind up gaining seats in the senate, which not only has the authority to confirm judges that Donald Trump picks for vacant positions, but is also the sole authority to following through with impeachment proceedings?

 

Care to explain that statement.

If Trump is made a martyr, a victim of Democratic overreach, and becomes more popular,Trump gets four more years. That will make Putin happy, right? He wants Trump to be President. Read my post above. See what happened in 1998.

Putin is very pleased with Trump's performance so far. He wants Trump to be our President for the next six years.

 

You mean the historically traditional mid term election turn-over?

 

Part of that was the thirty or so republican House members who chose not to run for reelection, in part because of the Mueller investigation. When 95% of incumbents get reelected, that gave the dems significant advantage that would not have been available otherwise.

We all know that in the first month or so, the Mueller investigation went thru all the evidence that the FBI, CIA, NSA and FISA had accumulated thru their counter-intel investigation. They must have been scratching their heads, wondering what the hell the FBI was basing their FISA warrants on.

Mueller would have known in early 2018 that Trump was certainty not guilty of colluding with Russians, and yet he allowed the public to think so, and gave the press a license to call him a traitor. This most certainly impacted the mid term elections.

 

Just look back at Clinton's and Obama's first mid term turnover, they were brutal. Trump's were minor, and he actually gained seats in the Senate.

 

Crucial difference there being that Comey could have charged Hillary and Muller could not charge Trump.