Two "smart" Trump missiles flew to Russia

International relations are not a court of law. You are just a Russia apologist, whining about anything the US does. There is enough evidence to convince me and a whole lot of other people that Russia/Syria did this. Is that beyond the reasonable doubt? No. Is it more likely then not? Yes.
If you want beyond reasonable doubt then run for office and get yourself into classified briefings. Otherwise all you have is whining about how bad America is and how the US president himself must deliver you personally full proof and backup for every decision he makes because you are so damn special.
Get over yourself, snowflake!

 

I find lots of the americans who try to find out online. Using sources not controlled as MSM is. Or generally is. But you have to be careful of course for you run into far too many tin foil hatters too. But this is where one's own brain figures into the equation. But granted, it is very difficult to get at the truth. So one has to look at the big picture view, and asked questions..like, who benefits from an accused action? If the one accused does not benefit, but is harmed by it, then this is where rationality comes in, logic, reason. For if evidence is never given, one must rely upon the mind to get at least a logical handle on the truth. If it is illogical, unreasonable, irrational, then this has great relevance. Just not to yourself, or so it appears.

 

What? All that you are saying is you do not need stinkin' evidence and any american that does is an russian apologist. Sorry man, you just failed with that pile of BS. Go and try pissing on some one else's leg. Won't work on anyone with a damned living brain cell. And I believe you know it. No one is this clueless, IMO. If they have a mind that is capable of rationality, logic, reason. And do not develop amnesia of the past.

 

Well times change. Germany more and more distances from USA

 

Granted times do change. I don't want any european nation to be a vassal state. The creme will generally rise to the top and germany is a fine example of this, post ww2. They were also a highly cultured nation prior to the rise of hitler. And their advanced tech for the times was envious of the US. Which is why we stole your best scientists and brought them to the US in operation paper clip. Germans aided greatly in taking america to the moon and back. We would not have done it so fast without germans. I think that should make germans very proud. And america, grateful.

 

Russians ask for public evidence because they want clues on how the evidence was collected and possibly trace a spy network.
What kind of proof are you looking for? A confession from a pilot of the helicopter that dropped that bomb? A confession from every soldier inside that heli?
Do you realize how ridiculous this is? Can we prove this attack was a Russian/Syrian making beyond reasonable doubt? Is that even possible?
You are the one who has no brain!
What’s the point for Syria/Russia to gas those people? Simple, just like Russian TU-95 that flies close to NATO airspace - test the reaction, check out how fast the reaction comes, etc. Another reason -smoke the rest of rebels out of Douma, as at the time of the attack it was not under full control of Syrian government and in fact was intensely bombed the whole week before it.
But you don’t care about it. The USA is bad, you like to whine about it, maybe your social security check is so small you can’t afford anything better than a PC and internet connection, so ********* about bad US government every time you have a chance. Hey, spring is finally warming up, go plant tomatoes, do some gardening, relax!

 

And you expect Germany sending military on vague allegations and zero prove presented?

 

I, personally, don’t give two damns about German military and it’s aid to the US. This whole thing could have been easily carried out on our own.

 

Russia knows how evidence is obtained. You think they are that stupid? No sir, this is the card played when there is no evidence, and it seems to work with you, but not with me. Your realm is knowledge is far too limited. It needs expanding.

 

It could. But when the 2nd largest power of NATO distances itself from this strike and now its parliament labels it an illegal strike...it ruins what you tried to achieve. The strike was not important in strategic value but in positioning. Germany distancing from it, broke the american front and makes it worthless. The strike destroyed 3 unprotected buildings...and shows open fractures in the western alliances.

 

Your realm of knowledge is non-existent. I watched closely Russian occupation of Crimea and the war in eastern Ukraine with russia making same claims - where is the proof that Russian military participated? And then a year later putin himself confirms and awards medals to military personnel that participated.
Same damn thing, just different location.
And Ukraine was chasing its tail for a long time trying to collect and present evidence for no reason and benefit. All it did is lost its time.
And now, you, being a russia apologist, playing into those people’s hands. Sure, let’s start investigating this, wait for permission to enter crime zone, let’s somehow force Assad to allow investigators to interview each suspected military personnel, wait a year for results and only then act, more than a year after the fact, after everyone forgot that it even happened. Sure, that’s what Putin wants! And that’s what you want, making you a useful idiot.

 

https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
Germany is like 5th in NATO after U.K., France and Turkey.
Germans military might is probably like 5% of the US. Also, I remember reading somewhere that it’s very difficult for Germany to actually participate in foreign aggression, thanks to pacifist constitution imposed on you by France after end of WWII.
But it’s all fake and conspiracy to you.

 

Germany has an economic power almost as big as France and UK combined. Thats what matters and nothing else. Germany openly siding with Russia and Assad regarding that makes your entire strike obsolete. And reality shows that. Nobody talks about it anymore. US depended on a closed front to make it a sucess. Germany breaking away destroyed that goal. It also gives Russia the ability to blackmail US and gain momentum out of this.

That Russia was able to jam 3/4 of the rockets, is another desaster regarding that.

 

First - all Germany showed is that it’s easily pressured by Russia. The country pretty much turned into Russia’s biatch. You don’t need huge economic power to drop a few bombs, even Assad can do that. Your claims of the impact of Germany refusing to participate is empty self-convincing stories, similar to you having sex without a partner.
Second - of all the demands of proof that Russians and their apologists demand from everyone, they somehow can’t prove that they shot down any of those missiles. Unless I see at least some pictures, to me all those claims are going to remain to be lies.

 

We did not get pressured by russia. We made our own decission, what is in our interest.

As for the stories. Over 100 rockets were fired accoriding to NATO. Only 3 buildings got destroyed. Thats prove enough. There were also videos where you actually see rockets blowing up in the night sky.

 

You didn’t get pressured by Russia? I’m sure that’s what a junkie girl thinks when she has sex for a dose of heroin - no pressure, made the decision on her own. Soon you’ll have the pipe, so prepare for Russia to have you everywhere. From all positions. At the same time.
Where is the proof of intercepted rockets? You demand proof for everything. What happened to you? Why did you stick your thumb in your sensitive area this time? Where is the proof?

 

We did not get pressured by russia. We made our own decission, what is in our interest.

Double post

 

Germany has sanctions against Russia since 2014. Believe it or not, we make our own decissions. And US claims were simply not credible.

I saw videos where rockets exploded in the sky.

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2018/04/14/syria-us-airstrike-interception.cnn

You have a problem with an independend acting Germany and you actually are so deluded already that you believe that your side is so right, Germany must have been pressured to not follow you.

I have news for you. We also did not follow Libya and Iraq. We see those things as crazy.

In Germany we believe the best friend is one, who falls his friend in the arms when he does something stupid. You dont want allies, you want vasalls.

 

We (the USA) should subcontract missile construction to the Japanese or the Germans so that next time they blow up when they are supposed to !!!

 

Different context. Russia isn't an important country to spite.

France isn't a country we need to spite, either, and they have 300 or so nukes and could, like Russia, create a nuclear winter. Ditto Pakistan.

This is an absurd comment that's the sort of stuff people say in bar after five or six beers. Sanctions on Russia are minimal.

I taught world history for years, so your claim is nutty. More bar talk.

You're clueless.

 

Sure they did.

 

Nah, but they're still the best in the world. Here, let this guy tell you:

 

I love all cars. I'm a "car nut". I'd love to see and drive a Russian car.

Our only experience with an Eastern Bloc car wasn't so good. The "Yugo" was imported about 1984-85 and it was a disaster. It was unreliable and tiny. My mother-in-law had one. Hilarious.

Americans love our cars.

 

If what you're saying is true about Russia, then why one sanction after another, and why are we heading towards war? I haven't seen so much demonizing since we went to war in Serbia and then Iraq? Serbia though was a successful war since no Americans were killed, only Serbs - Civilians of course, but they don't matter.

Then again they poisoned Miloshevik before he could go to trial and prove his innocence. But that's okay, now that he's dead the Hague declared him innocent - but in a tiny paragraph at the end.

 

Yeah, but you did with Bosnia and Croatia. Oh that's right, they were allies in WWII. Anyway Merkel should have done what was best for Germany before going along with the sanctions. Instead she took the cowardly way out and it cost Germany billions.