U.S. Economy Flashes Signs It’s Downhill From Here

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sadly the writing is on the walls, corporations are sending jobs overseas and consumers are buying from overseas, not a good combo

    Trump is not doing anything about it and I doubt he will as his own business used overseas labor we have seen
     
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    LOL!!!!!! I love your personal opinions. They make me laugh.

    The cost of healthcare will eventually decrease due to the population and technology advances.
     
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    to be fair, they would prefer a living wage so they could afford it themselves...

    the governments low fat and high carbs recommendations are causing more and more health problems, so not sure it's possible at this point cost wise to have universal health insurance

    the Trump admin knows this though

    "Trump Official Says Diabetes a Preexisting Condition Not Worthy of Coverage"

    https://insulinnation.com/living/tr...t-a-preexisting-condition-worthy-of-coverage/
     
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    if they do not change their dietary recommendations, your probably right.... Nixon did more harm to this country then we thought he did at the time

    http://www.allgov.com/news/where-is...blame-richard-nixon-and-earl-butz?news=844637

    "Researchers increasingly believe that changes in the nutritional content of the food we eat may be the most important pathological factor in explaining the obesity epidemic, and those changes can be traced to changes in U.S. Agricultural policy initiated during President Richard Nixon’s administration."

    this combined with the low fat recommendations.... meant corps added sugar to almost everything we eat

    "Perhaps most insidious is the fact that Big Food adds HFCS to make its low-fat food products palatable, yet modern research suggests that intake of sugars, including HFCS, may be worse for human health than the fats they replace."
     
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    Compare like with like. We know that national health care is more efficient. It costs less. Get them onboard by offering Game of Thrones cuckoo clocks?
     
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    I'm not going to educate you...do your own research about diminishing returns.

    Never said you cheated on taxes...said if you worked then you must understand the ECONOMY is there for everyone!

    Point and fact is there are many beneficial lobbyists as I listed a few. Any lobbyists you consider evil are just doing their jobs! If there is anything evil it is your Congress members and president who work with questionable solicitors. Learn to place the blame where it belongs...
     
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    There's no need to lay blame. You have a system where you are irrelevant and the corporation is everything. Just learn your place and stop moaning?
     
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    This is quite naive...corporations DO NOT send jobs overseas?? Corporations perform in the best possible environment in which to satisfy their demand.
    Many corporations are international and merely producing product closer to the large consumer markets.

    Consumers can buy anything they wish today so if they buy imports this is their choice. The answer to this is for American companies to produce the identical products for the same or lower price in the USA...if they do not this is their choice.

    Trump can't do anything about it except strong-arm everyone which will only lead to ill-feelings and higher prices.
     
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    You should start a public health care company...
     
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    Anyone preferring a wage increase needs to obtain more skills/education then apply themselves to the workforce.

    The government DOES NOT cause health problems?? People make 100% the choice of what to eat.

    Trump officials don't make laws...
     
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    How people eat and exercise and treat their health is 100% the person's choice.

    All foods are FDA approved. Any food that a person does not like...don't eat it!!
     
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    There will never be any like-with-like...this is the USA in which our priorities trump everything. We are spending $3.2 trillion on health care, probably 100% more per capita than any other nation and good luck slowing or reducing this...
     
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    US voters hold the most power in the USA...they're just too stupid to understand this...
     
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    That's a blind hope, isn't it? Your whole system is geared around money, with dollars deciding election and the individual irrelevant. There's only the odd Democrat activist who has escaped the political straightjacket.
     
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    Hope and reality are two different things.
    The root of our problems in the USA is not corporations and money...it is voters to stupid to do the right thing...and there is no cure for this...
     
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    Sorry, but that is very naive. You have a society with extreme inequality. Of course money is king! To blame the voter, given the whole economic paradigm makes the individual irrelevant, isn't cunning.
     
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    Well, maybe I need to educate YOU. Lobbyists and corporate lawyers have no business writing our legislation.
     
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    government recommendations play a role, if people are not educated properly then they believe they are doing the right things when they are not

    it also effects funding of government programs like school lunches, grant money, ect... even effects what your doctor recommends

    government recommendations effect what the "experts" tell you as those the buck the system are attacked financially and even legally via lawsuits

    and when ever the truth starts to come out, so does the arguments you make, cause they want to kill the truth, so instead of acknowledging the false information, people like you want to blame the people effected by the false information, say it was their choice
     
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    yes, some people support corps paying people 3rd world wages and blame the people rather then condemn the actions of these greedy corporations

    as for health problems, yes the government recommendations for the Standard American Diet have contributed to many of the health issues this country now sees

    the food pyramid was a failed experiment
     
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    totally agree, wish everyone would get out and vote
     
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    people do vote - but it is of no value because of right wing gerrymandering and other forms of voter suppression
     
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    In a democracy the voter rules...
     
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    In the US money rules.
     
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    Of course government input, input from anyone, has some meaning but whose job is it to monitor our body, our health, our weight, etc...it's 100% the person's job.

    People are subjected to information 24/7, from myriad sources, and again, it is 100% the person's responsibility how they use the information they receive. YOU decide everything in your life! Not government. Not miscellaneous information. YOU! Everything I am today, all of the good and the bad, was 100% done by me! I have no one to blame but myself for how I manage my life...
     
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    The US is not a 3rd world nation??

    Obviously you never owned a business...99% of them are not greedy.

    Go ahead and blame government for people's problems but this is wrong. Government is not going to solve people's every day problems...like how much they earn, what foods they eat.

    BTW; there is NO SUCH THING AS A BAD FOOD...but there are bad eating habits...(read this in Time magazine)
     

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