Ukraine referendum

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by UntilNextTime, Sep 23, 2022.

  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    what stuff have iposted that is qanon
     
  2. Bill Carson

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    It's quite easy to spot a warmonger....just look for the ones that make excuses for NATO at every turn as well as want NATO to expand every chance they get.
     
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    NATO only expands if a country asks to join. Maybe Putler should stop making people want to join? You Russians did this and invading your neighbors just encourages more people to want to join the security of the defensive alliance.
     
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    Gaslighting nonsense. There were too many dead bodies in Kosovo to sell your position.
    Another no sale. Your claim Putin was saving ethnic Russians from cleansing in the Crimea and eastern Ukraine and is nonsense.
     
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    I think you're a bit confused by the Marx quote. Not your fault. I know comrade Marx from his writings. He's a gossip and ruthless liar. It was most important to him to help his false ideology to win at all costs. :(

    You mentioned the obvious difference between MSM and pro-Ruzzian media.
    One of them is right and the other one is lying. But how do you know that MSM are the liars and not the Vatniks?
    That would interest me very much. :)
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    Yes, an astute observation about a process playing out now with Finland and Sweden.
     
  7. LangleyMan

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    Oil.
    The Taliban gave safe haven to bin Laden.
    Most folks on the forum don't buy your claims about NATO. More than a few were ready to defend their country against the Soviets and now the Russians. Americans, across the political spectrum, have no wish to live in a police state.
     
  8. Bill Carson

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    They already do.
     
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  9. LangleyMan

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    We're doing the right thing, IMO. We are involved in blunting Russian aggression.

    Putin faces a solid NATO wall from the Arctic to the Black Sea. He knows he can't win a conventional war. He isn't going to bully us with nukes, either.
     
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    No, they don't and they know they don't.
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    Greed was involved, but it wasn't the only reason.
     
  12. Esau

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    Go on.....
     
  13. UntilNextTime

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    Ever since the end of Vietnam, how many places have the US gone to, to sort things out? What business does the US government/military have doing all those "special operations"? For what purpose other than false pretences and narratives? Oh, to further their hegemony over others for their resources and to place their puppet on the political stand that asks how high to jump when Simon says to. Very little of that sort of sh!t coming out of Russia. It must only happen in an alternate reality.

    hedgemony.jpg
     
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    Chomsky? Really?
     
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    Good for you. So you like to ignore the fact that this occurs, the US hegemony.
     
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    No, I just don't like propaganda and ideology.
     
  19. UntilNextTime

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    I find it funny when people whose beliefs are challenged referred to it as, "propaganda". Who has the most boots on the ground of late?

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    Looks as though the US is leading the push by at least a 1/3..
     
  20. yangforward

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    I think that diagram is a little out of date. Since Biden has been leading the herd, the herd has started to disperse.
     
  21. LangleyMan

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    Anyone who doesn't know Chomsky is an ideologue and propagandist isn't paying attention.
     
  22. UntilNextTime

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    He's trying to gain more of Europe, well his handlers at least are.
     
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    Ahh, paying attention. I used the book cover and not the words within it. The statement made by me that accompanied that particular post was my own, from what I perceived and observed. It wasn't a quote from the book. Someone might want to pay a bit more attention themselves.
     
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  24. yangforward

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    The Pied Pipper media rev up the public against whoever threatens the power of the elite.

    Without the media influence, 95% of the public would want to live in peace and happiness.
     
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    Yes, Biden doesn't care, but the people who control him include the weapons makers and they want to sell more weapons and that always means WAR!

    The US sells weapons the NATO countries standardize on, so more countries in NATO means more sales.

    They are more than happy to sell weapons right up to the border of Russia.
     
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