Unemployment emergency benefits has killed jobs. Here is why that's a GOOD thing!

Try checking your calendar for timing of events, eh? And do check and see what WHO has recently said about their own handling of the pandemic.

False. Obviously you have no concept of creating a growth environment actually is.

You have repeated stated that if a business can't afford to pay people $15 an hour, they shouldn't be in business. Obviously, if the employee isn't producing $15 an hour (net) worth of services or product, then $15 an hour isn't the appropriate rate of pay. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Your opinion has no weight on this subject. Don't like it, don't do it.

Once again, try reading statistics and demographics at BLS about who actually only makes FMW. Apparently, it will be educational for you.

Feel free to pay any wage that is legal for whatever it is your people do.

see above, you have stated it, repeatedly

The worker doesn't. The employer shouldn't have to either. Want to pay $20 for a fast food item?


[/quote]Read my sig! If you have a point, YOU make it. I do my research, you do YOURS.

I can't even begin to tell you how many here have tried (and failed) to challenge my research. If you think you're up to the challenge, go for it. If you don't feel up to it, I understand that you feel your position is too fragile to attempt to support it. If that's the case then all I can say is... thanks for playing.[/QUOTE] I have repeatedly supported my position, yet all you have to provide is the idea that an employer owes an employee a living wage, without regard to what that employee is actually producing. You claim you pay your employees $15 an hour. Chances are, if you are so willing to do that, they should be getting paid more.

You opened with a narrow perspective. I enlightened, and you blindly continue to deny. I can't force you to drink, or think.

Have a lovely day.

 

Cheap insult attempts are no substitute for a sound argument. Here is my post again. I did not use the term "Free". You made than up.

 

The government IS the public. And it's great for the public! A free way to reduce international debt. We still owe the Iraq war to China, you know... A great way to deal with their constant currency manipulation. It also reduces the income gap. And especially the gap between the top 0.01% and the rest. Win win win....

Inflation is not good only if it's uncontrolled. As I said to another poster, that means that the government acts as if it didn't exist. And we have had too many Republican administrations doing exactly that.

 

I will not!!!!

This concept that people can be employed based on "free market".... as if they were some product at the supermarket... is detestable.

No! There is no free market of labor. There is a market for abilities, knowledge and experience. But these are people. They ALL deserve a minimum living standard if they work a fulltime schedule.

 

People sell their time. Or not. It's their choice. That you're trying to reframe their choice as slavery, which is involuntary servitude, just shows how dishonest you are.

 

I have no clue what you're trying to say. Trump mishandled the pandemic, this created a financial crisis that would have

I have a very good concept of what it should NOT be. And even the most conservative in what was once the Republican Party have said for years that using the bully pulpit to favor some businesses and try to sink others does not create a healthy environment for investors.

Wasn't it you who spoke about the "real world"? In what world is there a business with employees who don't produce $15 an hour? If there are any, they need to shut down! They are not helping the national economy one bit. And they should most definitely not be used as parameter to enact any type of legislation whatsoever.

I'm confident this will become illegal soon.

It's no problem if the minimum wage is $100 per hour. While you speculate on meaningless numbers, I'm talking about PEOPLE. And the latter is the subject you would prefer to avoid.

No I don't!!! I claim I pay much more than $15 an hour. What expectation would we have that you would engage in a rational debate if you don't even read before responding?

 

It was a very simple question. It shouldn't be this difficult to get your response. So why do you tell me to ask you what your position is if, when I do, you refuse to answer?

It's obvious you write without bothering to make sure you have your position clear in your own mind.

 

Wages are determined in a free market by supply and demand with all parties operating within the law .... Period. It ain't rocket science although it does not mesh well with some ideologies

 

"Unemployment emergency benefits has killed jobs"

OP still hasn't corrected this misstatement or demonstrated he knows much about the economy.

 

Agreed, and many states and localities have set their own minimum wage. The problem is determining what a living wage is, and that varies by area, as well as circumstance and choice.

Someone here making $15 an hour with a wife and four kids qualifies for housing subsidy. A friend of mine. He makes much more now, but the transition when he exceeded the income limit put him behind for a couple years. The kids are now all in school, the oldest is a teenager, and the wife now works.

A single person making $9.75 (our MW) qualifies for no subsidies.

Two points. A living wage falls somewhere between where the government subsidies end and the private sector takes over. And, with regard to living wages and subsidies, it's a lot more complicated than it may seem.

 

I'm sure you don't make billions. But I would bet that you make far more than a mom and pop restaurant or clothing store or nick knack store. You run a high tech business and you're comparing it to all other small businesses.

 

Minimum wage will most likely help some meth addicts working at McDonalds, while putting a bunch of high school grocery sackers out of work.

Bravo, Democrats. Bravo.

 

You did not ask; you made a false ass-umption. My position (Posted twice) is not complicated. What part of my disagreement with your assertion that ass-sitting is a good thing for workers are you having trouble with?

 

And how many people is that and how many people does it take to wreck the system? By the way the left in this country has made a cottage industry of blaming every body for crime but the criminals for most of the last 50 years or so.

 

Well, that should address our toilet paper shortage...

 

So

I'm sure the people that lost those jobs are not as excited as you are about it. I'm sure when they come for your job you won't like people saying "good riddance"

SAD!

 

You dance well, but fail to answer questions directly asked, ignore information/links recommended, and disregard generally accepted methods of determining labor value. Summary, you can't defend your position.

Have a wonderful day.

 

Wrong wrong wrong, as usual. Bonds you can't sell don't get money in the bank no money in the bank and government checks don't go. You might want to look at the old phrase, "...not worth a continental...

 

Well if that's the way it is... "Period"... then why are all these right-wing posters whining about some sort of Federal minimum wage? Is it just a figment of their imagination, you think?

 

I'm not comparing anything. I'm responding to posters who claim that if the minimum wage is increased, then all small business would shut down. I network with many small business owners. Some make more than I do, others probably make less. I have not heard any of them say that they will have to shut down once the $15 minimum wage goes into effect.

 

Biden’s minimum wage is a slight of hand.

 

What is curious is why you just won't state it here and now instead of all this drama. One might think that you're not very comfortable with your own positions. As if you were concerned because I might use it against you. It's not my premeditated intention to do that. But, on the other hand, I can't guarantee that I won't.

 

I have never refused to respond directly to a direct question (so long as the answer I must give doesn't get me in trouble with the mods). Ask it here and now, and we will all find out what it is you're talking about. Direct question, please.

 

Huh? Is this supposed to be English? May I respectfully suggest you check your bodily temperature? Out of an abundance of caution, of course.....

 

What a laughable response. You have no answer to a reality based view, as opposed to your pie in the sky nonsense