Unemployment Falls to 8.6 Percent as More Quit Seeking Jobs

"righties" oppose a large federal government.

Simple concept. Learn it.

 

LOL You are beginning to get a bit confusing here..........LOL

Some jobs you like but others you don't....yet you celebrate holiday hiring......and apparently chafe when Herman Cain tells you to get a job.

Despite the silly hyperbole....... the hundreds of thousands of jobs the clown Obama is killing or had killed are not "meth labs" LOL Wow.

 

Could those 315K run out of employment benefits, and as such have fallen off the roles?

 

the point I was making was that we cant ignore everything except how many jobs something can create.

I know righties think the environment is some lib conspiracy....but its real.

 

if they cant find a job after 2 years of unemployment, maybe they arent employable

 

it migh be simple if they were laying off state workers too.

they oppose anything that isnt outsourced.

 

They also would fall off the unemployment roles, which does not indicate any economic gain as is being suggested by some on this forum.

 

Exactly. We have a shrinking labor force. I would love this to be good news, but am a realist. It's not good news. We're still going in the wrong direction.

 

except the indications are that the number of underemployed and those not counted has fallen, not risen.

 

Why are states laying off state workers Mello?

Ill tell you why. Because they don't have any money to pay them. Why don't the states have any money to pay them? Because the federal government is spending it all to grow the fed.

The majority of state funding comes from the federal government. Its the round about way that the fed has manipulated their position and their power to squash the states.

Don't want to follow along with the demands of the federal government in regard to State issues? Then lose federal funding for X program.

Its a gross violation of the 10th amendment.

Then, when the states start laying people off, you are going to sit here, on this forum, and claim that its the "righties" fault that the states don't have enough money to pay them all while supporting the growing fed.

You are as corrupt as the fed.

 

So let me get this straight.

The facts show that the number of people ON unemployment has went down. While at the same time, there have been minimal gains in people actually employed. And you claim that it isn't people falling off the roles, but rather people getting back to work.

Hum. Something doesn't add up here.

 

im not claiming to understand all these (*)(*)(*)(*)ing numbers in the slightest.

 

thats interesting....

so even though federal tax rates are as low as EVER....

its the high federal tax rates that are forcing states to lay off workers?

because they didnt know they had to pay taxes when they were hiring people?

ok newsflash Red states.....even if you hire teachers, you still have to pay federal taxes.

 

The numbers are a bit misleading.

There is a demographic heaving in the actual size of the workforce at this period of history due to baby boomers retiring.

However, relative unemployment indicators still relevant as weather vanes for how the economy is doing as their value lies in comparative analysis rather than an attempt to quantify.


This applies to apparently high or low numbers as long as they are consistently calculated in the same way.....what's more important and more useful is the direction.

 

To put it another way, if I can be so vain as to reply to myself, there would have been 3 ways to get unemployment to tick down almost half a percent.

1) add 593 thousand jobs
2) have 593 thousand people leave the workforce and give up looking for jobs
3) a combo of the two

Only option 1 is truly good news.

We've had 315 thousand people give up looking in that last month or so, and only added 278 thousand jobs. Yes that will tick down the U3 rate.

Sorry this is bad news. The labor force is shrinking.

 

less lazy people tying up jobs for the rest of us....wheres the downside?

 

It's a shame what these forums have done to you. Your posts have become zero in substance, and are now merely a constant begging for attention. I've noticed no one takes you serious anymore.

 

I don't think you read, or understand, what I told you.

 

The downside is stupid people attending OWS and complaining about wall street instead of the government because they are too stupid to understand the "real reason" why they don't have a job:

 

It adds up in a complex economy with an aging population.

The economy is slowly growing and new jobs are slowly being added, despite ********** attempts to sabotage progress.

But since Bush put us in such a deep hole it will take a long time to get out, so long as conservatives keep blocking more stimulus and borrowing at low rates.

 

Here we go with the manipulation necessary to try and score partisan points.

Jobs are growing, at a slower rate than people entering the workforce and people losing unemployment.

Only in some backwards partisan propaganda world is that "good thing".

Still?

Failure.

 

I know, I know -- you want to ignore Bush's failed policies so you can repeat them. That's what conservatives do.

Sorry -- you're outted.

The answer to job growth is higher taxes on the rich, a big stimulus and investment in productivity, funded by low rate loans the world is dying to give us.

 

im glad you know how I feel listening to righties cry about unemployment whent hey want to attack obama

and attack the unemployed to justify cutting off their benefits.

 

What do they say about trying the same failed plan over and over again and expecting different results?

Who cares when its somebody else's money!

 

obviously you would prefer a rising unemployment rate as we had a couple years ago. its been turned around into a declining rate.....which apparently to the right is a bad thing.