Unemployment Falls to 8.6 Percent as More Quit Seeking Jobs

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks like my facts beat yours since you abondoned your position and have now come directly after me.

    Don't worry sport. Most "intellectual" progressive liberals fall flat on their face when trying to defend their positions (or invalidate my on the easy road) to me.

    At the end of the day. Your position has NOTHING to do with individual sustainability and actually making the country a better place, you position is surrounded by ulterior motives of driving fundamental change and manipulating the system to serve your cause. At the end of the day, you will get shown up every single time.

    Try again later.
     
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    For that to have any downward influence at all on the LFPR, we would have to be at a negative population growth rate.

    We aren't. We have positive population growth. :roll:

    Liberal fail.
     
  3. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pssstt.... they aren't ACTUALLY retiring yet at a rate that out paces people entering the market.
     
  4. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You say taxpayer like the people who got money through all of the incentive programs and social programs ACTUALLY contributed that money in the first place.

    LOL

    Which is the problem.
     
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    Did you give Bush credit the next minute when you got hired?
     
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    You've been overmanned. The employment figures are encouraging. Deal with it.

    Your spin has been rebutted.

    Now we need to raise taxes on the rich and have a real stimulus plan. This will take defeating the GOP and its discredited ideas (which are yours)
     
  7. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    News flash.

    Giving somebody $8,000 to buy a house, and they didn't pay anywhere near $8,000 in income tax is not a "tax benefit".

    Only the left would make such a ridiculous statement. Social programs are now being pawned off as tax reductions.
     
  8. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    great, so what percent of those who got that 8k havent paid 8k in federal taxes over the course of their life?
     
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    Yeah, a 5 year bubble burst by Democrats taking control of Congress. Coincidence? I doubt it. Engineered to get a Dem into the White House.

    Progressive losers all.
     
  10. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The number of unemployed fell while the number of workers remained fairly constant.

    More people are entering the labor force every month than are retiring.

    These are facts sir.

    The numbers you provided prove one thing. People have run out of unemployment benefits.

    Nothing more.
     
  11. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does any of that have to do with the topic at hand?

    If we spent 342093482300492342384 trillion dollars, that does nothing to validate you authorizing government to then reach their hand into my pocket and hand the money to you.

    Sorry. The idea or concept that it does is pure non-sense.
     
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    hundreds of years with nobody flying planes into buildings....

    until republicans took the whitehouse
     
  13. Landru Guide Us

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    Ah the taxation as theft meme.

    It's about as silly as you can get. But I suspect you'll even outdo that. If you don't like living in our democracy, leave. Nobody will stop you. So it's not theft. It's the rule. Somalia, I hear, I low tax.

    NEXT MEME!
     
  14. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So isn't that pretty much already like taking from the rich to give the poor?

    At what point does this Robin Hood non-sense stop?

    Why should I NOT get $8,000 for the home I bought, and instead I have to help fund yours?

    In what world is that fair?
     
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    Yeah, generally you should tax people with money.

    Duh!

    What's wrong with making billionaires pay more for Bush's wars and economic collapse?
     
  16. The Mello Guy

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    right, its only ok to reach in my pocket when youre giving the money to defense contractors.
     
  17. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As usual, Im just going to stop responding to you since its obvious that when facts come into play you pull one of these :ignore: in conjunction to one of these :chainsaw:

    Sorry that the facts so poorly back your position that you don't even have the ability to retort with anything other than vehement personal attacks.

    Must suck having positions that are so ill founded.
     
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    This is a great article, Calminian.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Our economy would be a lot stronger today if it were not for all the unnecessary and counterproductive regulations Barack Obama has recently imposed on U.S. businesses!

     
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    how are you funding mine if ive paid FAR more than 8k in taxes over my lifetime?
     
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    this thread is hilarious....we have republicans rant for 5 pages about how bad unemployment really is....

    then rant another 10 pages about how those lazy (*)(*)(*)(*)s on unemployment are stealing their money.
     
  21. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, in theory, if we were to give you back every single penny you ever paid in taxes, are the rest of us having to pay for you?
     
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    only if you feel your entitled to a percent ofmy income....

    how much are you entitled to?

    (BTW youve avoided the same essential question twice now, how many are we going for?)
     
  23. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not as simple as that, in fact your attempt to bring it down to such a level does little to validate or vindicate your position.

    What it comes down to is the difference between liberal and conservative positions that bleed all over every other subject.

    That is, collectivism. The crossing of the line from everybody sharing expenses to people contributing to social engineering using collectivism as the means.

    In your failed argument, you have equated shared expenses with individual redistribution of wealth.

    Its the oldest divide in the country, one that was argued at length since our founding. The use of government money, that is money collected from the collective, to fund social engineering or to benefit a few.

    The thing that just simply boggles my mind is the fact that some people SUPPORT the concept in some regards, and vehemently oppose it in others all while continuing to support the institution responsible for both the perceived ill and cure; government.

    I simply for the life of me can not understand how some people can even encourage or support the concept of drawing upon one mans wallet to feed anothers directly utilizing our government, the institution charged with COMMON interest to do their bidding. And then, to encourage continual manipulation of the system, and the atrocities created, as a means to the ends of supporting more failures.

    I simply wasn't brought up this way. It boggles my mind what kind of people would support such non-sense, and if they have any respect at all for the purpose, the limited one, for which it was created.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not as simple as that, in fact your attempt to bring it down to such a level does little to validate or vindicate your position.

    What it comes down to is the difference between liberal and conservative positions that bleed all over every other subject.

    That is, collectivism. The crossing of the line from everybody sharing expenses to people contributing to social engineering using collectivism as the means.

    In your failed argument, you have equated shared expenses with individual redistribution of wealth.

    Its the oldest divide in the country, one that was argued at length since our founding. The use of government money, that is money collected from the collective, to fund social engineering or to benefit a few.

    The thing that just simply boggles my mind is the fact that some people SUPPORT the concept in some regards, and vehemently oppose it in others all while continuing to support the institution responsible for both the perceived ill and cure; government.

    I simply for the life of me can not understand how some people can even encourage or support the concept of drawing upon one mans wallet to feed anothers directly utilizing our government, the institution charged with COMMON interest to do their bidding. And then, to encourage continual manipulation of the system, and the atrocities created, as a means to the ends of supporting more failures.

    I simply wasn't brought up this way. It boggles my mind what kind of people would support such non-sense, and if they have any respect at all for the purpose, the limited one, for which it was created.
     
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    Thanks, Bill Clinton! You were only provided Osama bin Laden twice on your watch.
     

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