Unemployment Falls to 8.6 Percent as More Quit Seeking Jobs

the failure is waiting for the bush tax cuts to generate jobs that will last.

the last 3 years policies have turned around a total economic collapse....only in partisan minds is it bad because its not faster lol

 

Its not declining!

Thats the point!

Jobs are not being added at a rate to keep pace with the number of people entering the workforce and coming off unemployment.

This is NOT a hard concept to grasp.

 

Actually you want the same failed policies of Bush and his pathological followers.

I want what Krugman suggested but wasn't tried: big tax increases on the superwealthy and a big stimulus plan.

Needless to say the GOP sabotaged the prior plan by insuring it wasn't big enough to make too much progress (though its made some and stopped the Bush Recession slide)

Only in ********** world are loan interest loans invested in productivity a bad thing.

 

If you believe that the policies provided in the last 3 years contributed anything to continued growth, you are simply blinded by partisanship.

 

No dude, your interpretation of the data in an aging population suggests a total lack of understanding of demographics. But then, that's what conservatives do: misunderstand basics.

In any case, we do need a real big stimulus plan. The GOP stall tactics and austerity slash and burn have failed.

 

I will even concede they probably didnt do much for long term sustained growth...

but there is nobody credible claiming the stimulus didnt create millions of jobs that would not have existed otherwise.

 

so being at its lowest level in 2 1/2 years is BAD? you would prefer it was rising I guess, then it would really be declining?

 

What poilcy is that?

Work for the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing things you want? Earn you own (*)(*)(*)(*)ing paycheck? Stop allowing government to rape and pillage the income earners at the benefit of the slackers? Return some of the tax dollars TAKEN from peoples labor. The audacity!

You want (*)(*)(*)(*)ing free money.

You want government to confiscate dollars, to pass down to those people that can then use the money to influence continued pillaging of the public coffers for your own benefit.

Its disgusting.

Stimulus is nothing more than a code word for socialized theft with a huge amount of inefficiency and pocket stuffing all while growing government so they can administer the corruption.

Stimulus isn't a loan. Its confiscation and wealth redistribution. You know it. I know it. We all (*)(*)(*)(*)ing know it. So why don't you just come on down here and admit it and we can start actually discussing the ridiculous theory.

 

A separate survey of employers, which economists pay more attention to than the unemployment rate, found that companies added 120,000 jobs last month, after adding 100,000 jobs in October.

how is that bad? please explain to us how thats a BAD thing.

 

building a road is stealing....RW logic 101

 

Unemployment's level is not necessarily correlated to the number of employed.

How many different ways do I have to say it before you understand a quite simple concept?

 

The plan of course needed to be bigger to have a bigger effect, as Krugman argued from the start.

Yields on t-bills are at almost historic lows (since the world in dying to invest in America in trouble times, even though the Baggers aren't). So we should take out the low interest loans, invest hugely in infrastructure, creating jobs and more tax revenue in the future, not to mention modernizing our economy for future growth.

But the stimulus most be much bigger.

 

The simple concept seems to elude you in an aging population. Which argues against your "point" not for it.

 

and its not disconnected completely from it either.

everyone agrees the economy was (*)(*)(*)(*) in early 2009, shedding nearly 800k jobs a month (which doesnt factor the new workers)....things got bad and fast...

there is no logic that suggests unemployment declining is a bad thing...thast just crazy.

 

LOL

Don't be ashamed to lie for your cause.

http://www.recovery.gov/Pages/default.aspx

Out of all stimulus money spent:

840 Billion dollars, 54.5 billion went to roads and infrastructure. Or 6%

Try again bub?

 

Tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, lack of stimulus. You know the typical conservative soup of failed ideas.

I stopped reading there. You're too silly to reply to.

Get back to us when you want to stop being dissociated from reality and stop trying to use your discredited conservaitve memes on somebody who doesn't fall for them.

 

840 spent?

it was half tax breaks....is not stealing money the same as spending it?

this is the problem arguing with the right often, their definitions change COMPLETELY depending on the subject.

tax cuts are spending only when democrats do it?

 

Lets look at how much went to social services and entitlement:

214 Billion or 25%

Yeah you go ahead and stick with that ridiculous strawman argument.

 

We're already running trillion dollar deficits every single year! What should we run 2 trillion, 3 trillion dollar deficits every year?

Stop it with the lame "Deficits don't matter" argument, it SUCKS.

Overnight the bond vigilantes and speculators could change their minds and boom, that is it.. America is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.

You are pretending like deficits and debt "can wait" until the economy gets better before we worry about them. Our deficits and debt cannot wait! They need to be fixed NOW as in yesterday.

 

So there aren't more people entering the market than there are leaving it for retirement and death?

Or is this illusion you reference forthcoming yet you wish to count it now since you lack any better method of invalidating my position?

 

Only in Bagger world are low interest loans that you can use to invest in future productivity a bad thing.

You debt fetishism is rather boring and dissociated from reality.

 

Pssst: factor in retirement from an aging boomer generation and even you might understand what's happening.

 

right, but 50% went back into the taxpayers pockets....

which can only be considered "spending" if you think all money belongs to the govt to begin with, and you only get what they give you.

and you call liberals commies lmao

 

lol it even says 300b in tax benefits on the front page, and Jcarlie STILL lied that it was 840 in SPENDING....

I really expect more from you.....not some of these clowns, but you I do.

 

Yes, lets look at the types of "tax breaks" you speak of:

$136.4B
First-Time Homebuyers. Transportation Subsidy. Education benefits. Earned Income Tax Credits.

Or money to people to incentivize spending, not necessarily refunds for tax dollars they paid in. This is a much different thing than the tax break given by Bush and supported by the republicans​

Tax Incentives For Businesses
$35.4B
The Work Opportunity Tax Credit added unemployed veterans and 16-to-24 year olds to the list of new hires that businesses could claim. The Net Operating Loss Carryback allows small businesses to offset losses by receiving refunds on taxes paid up to five years ago.

More of the liberal love. Social engineering. Spending other people money to save them. Take my money to fund this program so that I don't get robbed by those 16-24 year olds when they can't find employment. Yay! Failure.​

Energy Incentives
$10.8B
Tax credits for energy efficient improvements to residences. Tax credits for alternative energy equipment. Electric Vehicles Tax Credit

BS social engineering. Don't let the markets decide, take money from the markets and tell them how its going to be.​

Making Work Pay
$104.1B
$400 tax credit for working individuals; $800 for working married couples

This is the only "tax incentive" I support. Letting people retain more of the fruits of their labor. This only accounted for 12% of all stimulus spending. So once again, your position is pretty much just more strawman arguments​

Are these the things you are trying desperately to draw a parallel to in order to play "gotcha" with the republican position on tax breaks?

Try harder Mello, you attempts are crashing and burning.